[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance?

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

Great response, Tejas.  But the process side of his question is still 
valid, IMHO.

--g


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Tejas Dinkar wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:24 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote:
> > Hi Thijs:
> > 
> > I appreciate the way you are supporting fedora, as for as Pakistani
> > people behavior goes it is same as you described in Netherlands :), i
> > have criticise the way fedoraproject grants the support stuff, because
> > i found problems in doing a good and real work, and there might be
> > many other who may get same problems as i do. My comments are not just
> > to get free stuff, but i want you people attention to start a proposal
> > based grant to fedora ambassador, in my opinion it is more practical
> > way then being an active member.
> > 
> > thanks
> 
> See, but understand this.
> 
> How can a member of the fedora steering committee be sure if the person
> requesting fedora stuff is really asking it to distribute if for free?
> 
> As someone posted earlier, Fedora T-Shirts are selling for nearly $10-15
> PER SHIRT. And in India, Fedora Core DVDs are selling for Rs 500 (~10$).
> 
> We cannot afford to lose any Fedora Goodies at all. In particular, if a
> member of the Ambassadors team abuses his power to make a sum for
> himself (other than a t-shirt or two), then the publicity WILL be
> devastating.
> 
> You will have the news on SlashDot: 'Robbing Fedora for Fun and Profit'.
> 
> Now how can anyone be sure that someone is worthy?
> 
> The same way the rest of the Open Source world works. Titles and
> position and prestige are awarded to those who DO. Those who take
> leadership. Those who put their own necks on the line, and provide
> useful input.
> 
> Even if that input is just 'Here are the slides I am using for my talk
> on Fedora'... that is still a CONTRIBUTION. And those who CONTRIBUTE are
> trusted. That is the way that things work in the FOSS world.
> 
> If someone joins the Fedora-Ambassadors, and then the next day says:
> "Please send me 500 DVDs and 100 T-Shirts", will naturally be treated
> with suspicion. It is equally suspicious when a person has been on the
> list for months, and never says a word, except for "give me...".
> 
> Yes, an ACTIVE MEMBER is not very well defined. But I think that if you
> point out an Ambassador, you can say if they are active or not.
> 
> Yes, you may be busy and cannot attend meeting. Not everyone can make it
> to meetings, and the timings may be such that it interferes with with
> work. But the decisions are NOT made in the meetings always. Decisions
> are made on this list. On the wiki, on fedoranews.org. At least make it
> known that you are an ambassador, and not just hope that you will be
> sent stuff 'Because you name has been in the wiki's edit group for a
> while'
> 
> Contribute your best, whatever you have time for. You will be alarmed at
> how many people will be helped, even by an article that took you 15
> minutes to write.
> 
> See, this is a form of collateral for the project. Now, when we send you
> stuff, we are not sending it free.
> 
> You have already paid for it.
> 
> Not with money, but with Blood, Sweat and the Hard Work that you have
> put in to improve the Fedora Project.
> 
> So it is a profit to us, no matter what you do with the CDs.
> 
> Gja
> 
> --
> Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com
> 
> The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
> stupidity of your action.
> 
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