[Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list

Paul W. Frields stickster at gmail.com
Fri Sep 12 17:11:10 UTC 2008


On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:55 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
> > I have a question for FAMSCo:  Can someone who is a well-known and
> > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without
> > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties?
> 
> Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is
> to be in the Ambassadors Account System group.
> 
> I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with
> those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over
> this proposal.
> 
> 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question:
> why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors
> list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of
> Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The
> natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it
> closed.
> 
> 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining
> the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them
> out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the
> list only to Account System members.
> But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L
> administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working
> hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group
> etc..
> 
> 3. Personally I don't know how simple could be check all the requests,
> meanwhile we are work with new Ambassadors (a requirement to be an
> Ambassadors is write a message about themselves on the List: with this
> opening, would it be useful?).
> 
> A lot of time we discussed about this opportunity both here, and
> during the past FAmSCo, there too.
> 
> FAmSCo, meanwhile, will discuss about the possibility and will try to
> focus on the problems and the benefits from this proposal.
> 
> Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an
> Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people
> work, giving them resources etc.
> 
> Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new
> Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to
> join the Project.
> 
> Hope to be more detailed soon

I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the
list completely.  This accomplishes several things:

* Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg
* Increases cross-project collaboration
* As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved

Some additional recommendations that came from other people to me in
private email:

* Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed.

* Add more moderators so that Joerg doesn't have to carry the whole
load.  There are others listed, but they are apparently inactive.
Having more moderators is not usually harmful.

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