[Ambassadors] Ambassadors list

[Gerold Kassube]

+10 from my perspective

And sorry, why we need to discuss this topic "every year"?

Regards

Gerold


PS.: all points are discussed and argued more than once



Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2008, 10:27 +0200 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH:
> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields :
> > Having open archives is good because it means people can read
> > discussions after the fact.  But if people can't read in real time, or
> > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the
> > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the
> > project.
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> Ever since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created way back in 2005,
> this type of discussion comes up every 6/7 months.
> 
> I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador
> Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that.
> 
> However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public.
> 
> A short summary:
> The Fedora Ambassador Project is a sub project of the Fedora Marketing
> Project and everyone will agree with that. Fedora Marketing List is
> open to public, but Fedora Ambassador project's does not. All
> Ambassadors _must_ be subscribed to the Marketing mailing list.
> 
> Coming back to Paul Frield's words:
> > we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project.
> 
> The collaboration between ambassadors and the rest of the project _IS_
> and _should be_ via the marketing mailing list and not ambassador
> mailing list.
> 
> When the ambassador project was initiated, the ambassador mailing list
> was intented to serve as a ground to discuss critical issues (freely
> between Fedora Ambassadors) such as:
> - budget expenses on a particular event
> - frank discussions (but between ambassadors ONLY) about difficulties
> they had during events. Thus next time, other fedora ambassadors don't
> fall into the same problems.
> example: if for a particular event ambassadors had a very bad
> experience with a hotel, he/she can share his/her views here. If the
> list is opened, this type of discussion will implicate bad publicity
> for the hotel. We are ambassadors and not hotel-star-tagger. Thus a
> private ML protects our views.
> -............(there are many critical issues, that you are already aware of)
> 
> Fedora Ambassadors are not those who decide the faith/roadmap(FAB
> does) of the whole Fedora Project. Thus to the outside world, this
> mailing list is not important.
> 
> A REQUEST TO ALL AMBASSADORS:
> 
> The Fedora Ambassador Project had many difficulties in the past. Every
> time we all worked together to solve those difficulties. We are all
> proud of the success of our improvements. The latter is based on our 3
> years experience we have.
> 
> Please next time before deciding something about the Fedora
> Ambassadors Project's faith, DO NOT destroy what we have constructed
> during the last past years.
> 
> Being a Fedora Ambassador is being part of the exciting Fedora
> Marketing family. During many events we have proved to the rest of the
> world we are the most solid and proffesional marketing team.Believe me
> or not, the closed Fedora Ambassador ML has a lot to contribute to
> that.
> 
> Fedora Marketing Mailing List:
> 
> As for more inter-projects collaboration, I believe everyone should
> make an effort to use the Fedora Marketing List instead of using it as
> a news-posting media AND leave Fedora Ambassador ML closed for
> critical issues.
> 
> I don't believe that opening ambassador project ML will bring more
> good than bad things to it. I still stress of the word QUALITY! If you
> followed our last big events, you would have seen that quality in
> promoting the Fedora Project.
> 
> Making the ambassador subscription process easier is not by opening
> the ambassador mailing list, but rather every ambassador should work
> for that.
> 
> Vote: -1 : I support JoergSimon's arguments and do not vote blindly.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Chitlesh
> 
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