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[Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-23



-!- ke4qqq changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors
NA meeting
< ke4qqq> DavidNalley
< N3LRX> RandyBerry aka dp67
< ke4qqq> welcome Randy
< rislam> hi all
< rislam> sorry to miss last couple meeting
 * DemonJester BrianPowell
< ke4qqq> so who is leading this meeting?
< herlo> w00t! we're definitely growing :)
< inode0> JohnRose
< rislam> meeting starts already
< rislam> RashadulIslam
< crossbytes> KevinHiggins
< pcalarco> nine, nice turnout!
< herlo> yep, sure is
< herlo> ke4qqq: did we invite spevack?
< ke4qqq> I did he siad he couldn't attend, but I have his answers
< ke4qqq> it's 5am there or something
< herlo> yes, its actually 2am, I was wrong before
< inode0> Is there an agenda beyond FADNA budget?
< herlo> well, as per normal, we could go through tasks
< ke4qqq> much to speak about
< ke4qqq> but it iusn't listed unfortunately
< herlo> I think someone needs to make sure the meeting agenda isn't ignored
< herlo> should we each take a week?
< rislam> i only see the budget at the agenda
< herlo> there are four regional ambassadors...
< ke4qqq> yes - lets let rislam take it this week!
< herlo> okay
< herlo> +1
< herlo> I'm happy to do the stuff for next week
< karlie1> KarlieRobinson
< karlie1> sorry I'm late
< herlo> Hi karlie1
< herlo> I saw you a minute ago
< rislam> oh i am behind of couple weeks
< herlo> you looked like you were on time
< rislam> i would be happy someone take this week
< karlie1> I'm having touble with IRC on my own computer.  Using Todd's now\
< herlo> indeed
< herlo> rislam: I can post the logs, but its not hard to lead a
meeting.  Why not give it a try?
< inode0> DemonJester: you are in charge, go :)
< DemonJester> lol..
< inode0> Ok, let's start
< inode0> FADNA budget - who has info on that?
< ke4qqq> !
< ke4qqq> we don't have an exact number
< ke4qqq> but max said the upper end is around 500
< ke4qqq> so it's gotta be less than that
< inode0> so what do want budget for?
< rislam> i believe each regional leader have 700 maximum
< ke4qqq> no - we have 700 total for this quarter - so we each have 175
< ke4qqq> plus event totals
< herlo> yeah, that
 * herlo really tried to beat ke4qqq to that
< herlo> :)
< ke4qqq> but inode0 raises a good question
< herlo> the thing is, this is separate from the budgeted amounts, right ke4qqq
< ke4qqq> yes
< ke4qqq> this is basically because fudcon had left over funds
< rislam> its very important what the budget for
< pcalarco> we could cover lunch on Sunday for those attending
< herlo> so here's what I am thinking.  We could use the funds to buy food
< herlo> for sunday
< herlo> breakfast and/or lunch
< herlo> but how many are coming? 5? 10?
< pcalarco> we get breakfast with the hotel methinks for free
< rislam> its not a good idea to expense only for food
< herlo> pcalarco: continental breakfasts aren't always that great
< pcalarco> six confirmed, two more possible
< inode0> looks like 9 signed up so far, can probably expect a few more
 * herlo needs to confirm
 * DemonJester as do I
< inode0> oops 8
 * inode0 is counting on herlo and DemonJester
< herlo> DemonJester: you are now confirmed
< DemonJester> herlo: thx!
< herlo> np, figured why have two people edit
< herlo> I think there are other things to budget for, one is we could
purchase items to build the rest of the eventbox
< herlo> we still need a switch and a few other things.  It will be at OLF
< inode0> I'd like to give volunteers a chance to pitch in first if possible
< ke4qqq> how big of a switch?
< herlo> inode0: good point, bring yer crap to OLF/FAD-NA :)
< inode0> I can give a switch without any problem - 16 port
< ke4qqq> and remember, we still have media to produce, so don't feel
obligated to spend 500 :)
< herlo> ke4qqq: can we get these funds either way?  Or do we have to
spend them at FADNA?
< ke4qqq> no they are current surplus global realm of ambassadors has
access to it
< ke4qqq> so if we don't spend it here we could (or someone else could) spend it
< herlo> ahh, so we should try to get a budget for this money soon, if
I am reading this right?
< herlo> doesnt' really matter what its for, just something useful
< ke4qqq> exactly and that max will approve
 * herlo sees that surplus being very useful for getting Media ramped up
< inode0> ok, question - do we need to decide this or is max just
willing to reimburse expenses up to around that amount?
< herlo> inode0: a couple thoughts about donations to EventBox, we
really should advertise this fact and we should not wait too long for
those donations...
< ke4qqq> not planning is a bad idea....
< herlo> +1 ke4qqq
< inode0> herlo: was planning to suggest arranging that as an action
item for this week
< herlo> indeed, +1 inode0
< rislam> Event box should be promoted strongly\
< inode0> we have a box and it should leave OLF in great shape
< herlo> right
< herlo> k, back to the budget then
< inode0> back to my last question please?
< herlo> I think ke4qqq answered that
< inode0> do we need to itemize things in advance and have max approve things?
< ke4qqq> I want to get the money committed from max.....otherwise
it's free game for others
< inode0> if not I'd like to move on now
< herlo> sounds to me like we want it, but don't know what we'd use it
for at FADNA
< inode0> rislam: what beyond food did you have in mind?
< rislam> we should try to involve new Ambassadors\
< ke4qqq> and perhaps we need to table it for this week.
< ke4qqq> but I think we need a plan
< inode0> would it be alright to research previous FADs and look at
this next week? or during this week in #fedora-ambassadors?
< herlo> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008#Agenda
< ke4qqq> +1
< inode0> we don't seem prepared to deal with it right now
< herlo> I thinks this could help
< pcalarco> have we gone through the Ambassador list to see if there
are dormant Ambassadors from OH, IN, MI, etc. that we could prompt to
see if they plan on attending?
< pcalarco> would this be worth doing to get more folks attending FAD?
< inode0> pcalarco: I went through all I could find in Indiana and Michigan
< pcalarco> indoe: ok
< ke4qqq> pcalarco: we went through basically the entire us/canada
< inode0> I think it is a good idea to try to poke people about OLF though
< herlo> who's manning the booth at OLF?  This might be a bit
off-topic atm, but I thought I'd bring it up
< ke4qqq> good question
< inode0> 30 minutes in, let's table budget at least until the end of
the meeting now and move on to tasks ...
< herlo> +1
< inode0> Polo update?
< inode0> Should be moved to completed?
< ke4qqq> +1
< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks <-- we're
looking here now
< inode0> pcalarco: can you update us on polos round 2
< pcalarco> Still collecting monies for second round of orders, but
yes, these are ready to ship
< pcalarco> I have issued invoices to all who ordered
< inode0> good, how many ordered this time?
< pcalarco> 9 for 5 Ambassadors
 * ke4qqq hasn't paid him yet - I'll try and take care of that tonight
or tomorrow morning at latest.
 * DemonJester too
< pcalarco> thx guys :)
< inode0> alright, perhaps this will be wrapped up next week
< inode0> good job and thank you pcalarco
< pcalarco> glad to help
< inode0> ambassador kit news?
< herlo> inode0: no news, only that we'll be working on it at FUDCon F11 Boston
< inode0> event box news?
< ke4qqq> ohohoh I have some!!!
< herlo> EventBox is ready to ship, will be sending it out on Sunday to iWolf
< herlo> ke4qqq: go!
< ke4qqq> we have XOs now!
< herlo> w00t!
< ianweller> :-o
< rislam> thats a great 8 news
< inode0> so there is one item that will be deposited into the pelican at OLF
< herlo> how many?
< herlo> that pelican will be so happy
< inode0> there are 4 XOs as I understand it
< herlo> there's a thought, we should consider decorating the box to
look more fedora-ish
< herlo> sure, but I wanted to make sure we got them all.. :)
< jeremy> ... and XOs can soon run stock fedora :-)
< ke4qqq> yes!!
< inode0> rislam: are you coming to OLF/FADNA?
< ke4qqq> there are 4
 * herlo hopes so
< karlie> I won't be at OLF
< karlie> Schedule conflicts
< rislam> i could not attend this time, i love to, but its quit
impossible for me these days
< herlo> sad eyes for karlie and rislam
< inode0> karlie: :( I wanted to go to your talk
< karlie> I was on the list for PA, and ON, but i have to back out
< rislam> but we love to see some pictures and make sure no body miss
us, its all of ur job
< rislam> :)
< inode0> rislam: just asked to see if we could pass off an XO to you there
< inode0> event box transfer policy update?
< ke4qqq> yeah avoid the shipping costs
< ke4qqq> and border hassles
< herlo> inode0: now that we have an eventbox, we should make this
discussion something we could add to the FADNA agenda??
< ke4qqq> +1
< ke4qqq> particularly expanding it so we have multiple
< inode0> yes
< herlo> sure, but I think we need to figure out how to run with just
one for now, because I'm not sure when we'll get funds to build
another...
< inode0> before we leave event boxes will someone volunteer for the new task?
 * herlo just ahd an awesom idea :)
< ke4qqq> whats the new task?
< inode0> setup a way for volunteers to contribute pieces we are
missing, sign up on the wiki, etc.
 * herlo found a reason to use the budget 'EventBoxen' :)
< herlo> inode0: its already kind of there, just needs to be added to.
 I did that on the eventbox page
< ke4qqq> ohhhhh
< inode0> and advertise it on f-a-l and elsewhere as appropriate?
< ke4qqq> so we add another "box"
< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox
< herlo> we should consider naming our boxen :)
< inode0> ideally we could have FADNA attendees bring most of what the
first one needs I think, if there were a clear way for them to assign
themselves pieces of it
< herlo> I want to call one 'Norma'
< inode0> herlo can name the first one what he wants
< ianweller> call one 'klauckengefroft'
< herlo> lol
 * ianweller goes back into lurk mode
< herlo> ianweller: this is America, nobody speaks German :)
< ianweller> herlo: that's not even german :D
< herlo> if that is even what it is :D
< herlo> lol
< ianweller> mock german, at the most
< herlo> rofl
< inode0> dog german
< pcalarco> looks somewhat dutch
< ianweller> that's how i give hostnames to computers now hehe
< inode0> like dog latin
< herlo> okay, back on track people :)
< inode0> ok, yes, event box transfer policy update?
 * herlo points up to his previous statement
< herlo> oops
< herlo> oh, wait, I did say that.  41minutes after the hour
< rislam> its been a while
< herlo> 19:40 < herlo> inode0: now that we have an eventbox, we
should make this discussion something we could add to the FADNA
agenda??
< pcalarco> +1
< rislam> please add new bies as Ambassadors for the community
< inode0> oh, that was in answer to my question
< herlo> inode0: it was
< inode0> ok
< herlo> sorry, it wasn't clear
< inode0> passing over media unless iWolf is awake?
< inode0> Any other FAD business?
< rislam> and also the job performance of the Ambassadors
< herlo> rislam: hang on, that's new business.  Goes at the end
< DemonJester> herlo: did you reserve a room?
< herlo> DemonJester: working on it, but vwbusguy wasn't answering my
pings earlier
 * inode0 loses control to hotel booking agents
< DemonJester> herlo: good luck I have been calling since last week
nothing available...
< herlo> inode0: I don't think there is any other business...
< herlo> Bueller?  Bueller?
< inode0> Any progress on event planning for FAD? I know there has been :)
< pcalarco> is it too early to plan for manning the Fedora booth at OLF?
< inode0> now is good, I wanted to discuss that too
< herlo> pcalarco: probably not, iWolf woudl be the one in charge of
that, but he's not here...
< pcalarco> we could set up a matrix like they used at LinuxTag 2007
< pcalarco> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007
< pcalarco> smaller obviously, but
< ke4qqq> oohhhh +1
< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OhioLinuxFest/OhioLinuxFest2008
< inode0> yeah, only one day and it will be easier to volunteer for
slots once the OLF schedule is released
< herlo> use that page...
< inode0> oh, ambassadors signing up for FADNA should sign up there
too I suppose
< pcalarco> great!
< inode0> ok, pcalarco: can you touch base with iWolf and see if he needs help?
< pcalarco> will do
< inode0> thanks
< herlo> we should link to FADNA page probably as well
 * inode0 skips other outstanding tasks unless he hears screaming and
gnashing of teeth
 * herlo looks
< herlo> nope, not from me
< inode0> open floor
< herlo> rislam: ??
< rislam> yes i am here
< herlo> new business
< rislam> please add newbie Ambassadors
< herlo> what does that mean?
< inode0> add to what?
< herlo> add them to what?
< rislam> we need to involve new ambassadors
< ke4qqq> so how do we do that
< ke4qqq> ?
< inode0> recruiting new ambassadors is on the FADNA agenda now
< herlo> in what form?
< inode0> I think ...
< zoglesby> I am new...I just got approved today and the process was
very fast and easy
< herlo> zoglesby: welcome
< inode0> welcome zoglesby
< inode0> meeting on your first day too
< rislam> welcome zoglesby
< ke4qqq> where are you at zoglesby?
< DemonJester> welcome zoglesby!
< zoglesby> Delaware and Spain
< zoglesby> I go back and forth a lot
< ke4qqq> cool
< rislam> new ambassadors should train and work together with all old
ambassadors
< herlo> rislam: back to your point now
< inode0> might you be at OLF or FUDcon Boston?
< inode0> mentoring is part of our mission
< herlo> rislam: do you have a proposal for such a thing?  Would you
like to discuss this more in a meeting?
< rislam> thx inode0
< rislam> i love to discuss it more
< rislam> if all of u allow me to do so
< herlo> it is part of our mission, but its probably a good thing to
nail down how we go about such a thing
< inode0> actually I think it would be a good meeting topic too,
suggests rislam add it to an agenda
< DemonJester> +1
< herlo> rislam: add it to next week's agenda, we'll discuss it
< rislam> it would be great then
< ke4qqq> outstanding
< rislam> i prepare all the stuff then for that
< inode0> put it before the task list so we get to it :)
< ke4qqq> inode0: what's the button status?
< herlo> k
< rislam> thank u all for the support
< inode0> I ordered 1000 Fedora logo buttons, no ETA yet but I expect
them before OLF
< ke4qqq> rislam: shoot me an email with an address I can ship an XO to
< rislam> ah ok
< herlo> inode0: nice
< rislam> thx
< herlo> rislam: edit this page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-29
< herlo> oops
 * herlo moves the page first
< inode0> DemonJester: didn't you want to discuss this at FADNA too?
< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-29
< herlo> is now https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-30
< DemonJester> inode0: yes
< herlo> DemonJester: inode0: trick is, rislam won't be at FADNA, so
we could discuss it further at FADNA maybe?
< inode0> would it be obnoxious to post agenda's in advance along with
the meeting reminder so when there are special topics ambassadors are
aware of them?
< herlo> inode0: nope, can do
< DemonJester> herlo: that is what I was thinking as well.
< pcalarco> that would be helpful, actually
 * herlo wants to know if you guys liked the meeting reminders as it is anyway
< ke4qqq> inode0: hmmm some would say that'd be a good idea
< herlo> I can improve them a bit
< inode0> it will also help nudge us to create them
 * ke4qqq was confused by this 'mountain time' :)
< herlo> lol
< herlo> MDT, its EDT -2
< karlie> well edt say
< rislam> i added it
< rislam> please check
< karlie> says it's past my bed time
< inode0> I like meeting reminders + agendas
< inode0> night karlie
< karlie> good night everyone
< herlo> I think I can make a cron job that does the reminders better
< herlo> so I will work on it...
< rislam> good night karlie
< DemonJester> gnite karlie
< pcalarco> gnk
< karlie> :-*
< inode0> are ianweller's new business cards official now?
< herlo> dunno
< ke4qqq> I think so  but sure ianweller can tell us
< ianweller> i'd ask stickster_afk if he was around
 * DemonJester hopes so I am getting some printed
< ianweller> he likes them
< ke4qqq> I thought we voted them in
< ianweller> i think everybody likes them, i dunno
< herlo> sounds like rubber-stamping to me
< ke4qqq> well if the fearless leader likes them they must be good
< ke4qqq> :)
< ianweller> if somebody can combine spoleeba's patch to get rid of
the inkscape requirement on it with my git repo i will be very happy
 * ianweller looks at everyone in here
 * inode0 likes them a lot and thanks ianweller for creating them and
dealing with all the critics
< ianweller> :)
 * herlo ducks from ianweller's glare
< rislam> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-30#Agenda
 * ke4qqq was one of those as well
< rislam> please check
< ianweller> if anyone is more experienced at programming python,
though, and can combine the patch and the git repo and make it *work*,
please, please do
 * ianweller will post the patch
< pcalarco> rislam: looks good here
< herlo> rislam: looks good
< inode0> Is there any other new business for tonight?
< herlo> nope, "not I", said the pig
< ke4qqq> wow - 1:12 that's a new record
< DemonJester> ;-)
 * inode0 is intentionally trying to closer to 60 minutes than 90 minutes
< rislam> yeah I see tht
< inode0> get
< ke4qqq> +1
< rislam> its a new record for us\
< herlo> inode0: do you need me to post the notes?
< inode0> I'd appreciate it
< herlo> np, can do
< herlo> It will probably be tomorrow early afternoon, but I'll get
the summary up there too
< inode0> ok, will close meeting at quarter past the hour if there are
no new topics tonight
< ke4qqq> cool!
< ke4qqq> so rislam has next weeks?
< rislam> +1 inode
< rislam> ok
< herlo> perfect
< rislam> thx again all of u\
< inode0> EOF
< inode0> thanks everyone


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