Hi, rules and guidelines are good till a certain point, if we establish a system where regulation and punishment is in place you will destroy every open system. Lets focus on how we can improve ourself and make a better job as ambassadors. I see in the following thread, that people start to justify their behaivour as Ambassadors - maybe i am sensible because i am from former-east-germany - but is this the beginning of a witch hunt? On Sunday 09 August 2009 08:37:53 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: > > A example how this is done as a peer can be seen here: > Where is the link to this on the Ambassador page? Because this is something we are not proud of and every single case should be handled carefull and with an individual scope. I(we?) want not a Subsection in Ambassador where all People who made mistakes get listed or a case study how wrong behaivour has to be handled. > The problem still exists, > public being ignored, > we carry on. Contact point for public is the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors#Where_are_they.3F i have removed the link to "count by country" - which pointed to the User:Username Pages, which is not the reliable source to find an active Ambassador. On the Verification Page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification are all Ambassadors listed who have an active FAS Account - we cleaned up over 200 inactive Ambassadors in last weeks. This is no guarantee, but it is the source where public should find the right Ambassador for the Job. Maybe we can discuss with Infrastructure to have MailingGroups for every CountryCode where public can send an email and contact the regional Group - i think this is a famsco discussion we should have in the next meeting > If you cannot engage in dialogue, what then? > as in my reply to David I can not tell you the right way - i can only tell you, that i would write a line on his WikiPage that he can not act as an Ambassador at this time and people from public should contact the regional contact instead. We have mentors to help to make the right decissions. We are an foss project and we trust our contributors! I would much more love to see a culture where we promote people who made a good job as Ambassador by give them more ressources and reputation in form of mention their names as a good example! cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon fedoraproject org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688
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