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Re: [Ambassadors] [Discussion] Reporting template for ambassadors.




On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 12:27 +0800, Jason Benedict Low wrote:
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> 
> susmit shannigrahi wrote: 
> > > We had such discussion twice or more since Ambassadors come to life.
> > > If you take a look at the past years M-L archive you will find that,
> > > at the end of the discussion, the conclusions were that nobody should
> > > be removed even if inactive: we SHOULD concentrate on active members.
> > >     
> > 
> > This is not about active/inactive thing. This is about *dead*
> > ambassadors.  They are different.
> > 
> > I agree nobody should be removed if inactive, they need mentoring.
> > I don't agree that nobody should be removed even if he left the project.
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > > I can assure you that actually is possible to understand who is active
> > > or not: take a look at event reports, M-L activity, IRC presence and,
> > > eveteamsn if we didn't see them, to the thousands of micro events around
> > > the earth (LUG meetings etc). All those facts should encourage us not
> > > to think at the inactive side, but working improving active
> > > ambassadors experience.
> > >     
> > 
> > I am, in fact many of us are not at all interested in knowing who are inactive.
> > We want the ambassadors who are not anymore with fedora to be removed,
> > just because of the simple fact is these are coming into our way with
> > their dead wiki pages.
> > 
> > Almost all the other teams do their house cleaning. Doc team does,
> > packaging team does. So what's the problem with us?
> > inode0 said a nice thing on IRC that if we don't do house keeping, we
> > will end up with 20000 pages of ambassadors and 90% of them
> > unresponsive.
> > 
> > Also I have problem with dead ambassadors personally.
> > 
> > When people cone us to me and say "Fedora ambassadors are non
> > responsive...in spite of having 120 Ambassadors for India, nobody
> > helped us", I feel bad.
> > 
> > This was not because we are inactive, this person went to the wiki
> > page of some local ambassador who are dead. So he didn't got any reply
> > from any of them in spite of repeated emails.
> > 
> > If we choose too ignore the issue, these allegations will increase
> > rapidly in near future.
> > I am not, rather we are not ok with that.
> > 
> > Thannks.
> > 
> >   

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i think there is a need to agree on a proper definition of "dead
ambassadors" ...



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