[Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu

Tue May 26 03:35:42 UTC 2009

I started off with Fedora at first due to its heritage (before I used  
Red Hat Linux), but now I see that Ubuntu often tries too hard to  
appeal to the masses. Fedora really conveys the true spirit of Linux  
and open source software. It doesn't include features to please it's  
fanbase or to make it like certain products (specifically those  
originating from Redmond, Washington), it does so because it fits the  
mission of the project.

In addition, Fedora sees much better collaboration between Its users  
and contributors along with Red Hat than I've seen with Ubuntu users  
and Canonical (correct me if I miswrote that)

Finally, Fedora is leading edge. It's the first major disrro to  
implement LVM and ext4 by default and paves the way for inclusion of  
new software in mainstream Linux.

P.S. I also love Blue and hate Brown.

Kamin Horvath
Fedora Ambassadors USA

On May 25, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good  
> suggestion and I think we should accent our positives.
>
> In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't  
> believe that this should be treated as a football game where we  
> congregate into fans waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat  
> Ubuntu!" -- because I don't believe the FOSS mindset should be like  
> that (and I hope it isn't). Nor should Ubuntu users think this way,  
> of course, but they'll have to address that themselves.
>
> Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and  
> Mandriva and others do -- and all should be recognized for their  
> contributions. Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else.
>
> Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu  
> on two machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with --  
> and my distro of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and  
> innovation, the camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to  
> all of you), and the dedication of those of us involved are  
> intangible qualities that make Fedora superior.
>
> [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein  
> upstream . . . .]
>
> Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan.
>
> Larry Cafiero
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez  
> <nushio at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's  
> Ubuntu? Try Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are  
> more important, and the Fedora Philosofy:
>
> Freedom, Friends, Features, First
>
> It's worked out for me so far.
>
> -Nushio
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com 
> > wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu.
> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to  
> change their mind.
>
> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in  
> Fedora against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course).
> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the  
> advantage list and the full process to change their mind).
>
> Kind regards,
> Tuan
>
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> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub- 
> projects are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator,  
> translate a gnome string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to  
> Gnome translations so the other distributions won't have that string  
> translated.
> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which  
> are closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here.
>
> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows  
> and less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but  
> don't try to be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not  
> right!
>
> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now.  
> Hope to helped you. Good luck.
>
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> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
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> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
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