[Ambassadors] Ambassador North America Meeting Summary and Log

[scott mcbrien]

Everyone, just wanted to provide a summary of discussion last night in the
Fedora Ambassador NA meeting:
Topic 1)  Reminder that FUDCon in Toronto is just around the corner, don't
forget to register and make arrangements if you're going.

Topic 2)  Upcoming Events

Utah Open Source Conference (Salt Lake City, UT) - Staffed by Clint
Savage<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo>

Ontario Linux Fest - Staffed by Jean-Francois
Saucier<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsaucier>
Quebec events - Staffed by Jean-Francois
Saucier<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsaucier>
   -> Request for some media and swag for the upcoming events  *Action Item*
for John Rose (?)

ABLEconf (Pheonix, AZ) - Staffed by Ryan
Rix<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rrix>
  -> Request for Ambassador Kit and media *Action Item* for Clint Savage

Central Pennsylvania Open Source Conference (Harrisburg, PA) - Staffed by Jon
Stanley <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jstanley>
  -> Request for banner *Action Item* for Ben Williams and Clint Savage
(vertical banners)

Topic 3)  Budget

Max Spevack talked about the budget for this quarter, about $8K, $5K for F12
media and another $3K to replenish promotional items stocks
Also some discussion of closing the Fedora portion of the Brand Fuel store

Topic 4) Open Floor

Reminder that F12 delivery has slipped a week

You can find the full meeting log at:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-07/fedora-meeting.2009-10-07-01.00.log.html
Which is also included below for your convenience:

01:00:10 <StabbyMc> #startmeeting01:00:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed
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<StabbyMc> Ok folks, it's that time.  Lets start the roll
call.01:00:36 <StabbyMc> .fas smcbrien01:00:37 <zodbot> StabbyMc:
smcbrien '' <scott at mcbrien.net>01:00:48 <crossbytes> .fas
crossbytes01:00:49 <zodbot> crossbytes: crossbytes 'Kevin Higgins'
<Kevin at crossbytes.org>01:00:55 <djf_jeff> .fas jfsaucier01:00:56
<zodbot> djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier'
<jfsaucier at infoglobe.ca>01:01:01 <dramsey> .fas dramsey01:01:02
<zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey'
<diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com>01:01:08 <PhrkOnLsh> .fas rrix01:01:09
<zodbot> PhrkOnLsh: rrix 'Ryan Rix' <phrkonaleash at gmail.com>01:01:20
<VileGent> .fas Southern_Gentleman01:01:21 <zodbot> VileGent: jbwillia
'Ben Williams' <vaioof at yahoo.com>01:01:27 <inode0> .wikilink
inode001:01:28 <zodbot> inode0: [[User:inode0|John T. Rose]]01:01:34
<StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North American Ambassadors Meeting01:02:08
<spevack> .fas mspevack01:02:09 <zodbot> spevack: mspevack 'Max
Spevack' <mspevack at redhat.com>01:02:21 <StabbyMc> Ok, so this is my
first time chairing the meeting, since stealing it from inode0; or
maybe it was foisting...01:02:28 <StabbyMc> Any announcements?01:02:38
* spevack is back in your timezone :)01:03:08 <StabbyMc> Excellent,
maybe spevack can talk about Budget Review when we get to it
:-)01:03:16 <inode0> New Mexico GNU/Linux Fest is being postponed
until next year01:03:27 <Ac-town> Hey everyone01:03:35 <StabbyMc> Our
partiticipation, or the con itself?01:03:41 <inode0> the
conference01:03:43 <spevack> The whole event01:04:18 <Ac-town> .fas
actown01:04:19 <zodbot> Ac-town: acactown 'Acac Town'
<acactown at gmail.com>01:04:19 <inode0>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009 <- go sign
up01:04:32 <Ac-town> -_-, not me :P01:04:54 <StabbyMc> inode0: so I
guess we're jumping into events then?  ;-)01:05:24 * inode0 was just
reminding folks that FUDcon is approaching01:05:55 <StabbyMc> Indeed,
and for those of you who haven't heard, there are going to be busses
from Boston and ...?01:06:12 <inode0> one from Boston that I know
about01:06:24 <StabbyMc> Since flying into Boston is less expensive
than Toronto.01:06:36 <StabbyMc> For some reason I thought there was
going to be one from Buffalo?01:06:36 <inode0> it is free though if
you can get to Boston before it fills up01:07:15 <inode0> free as in
courtesy of redhat01:07:32 <StabbyMc> mizmo and spot are going to be
on it, IIRC.01:08:26 <StabbyMc> Any updates on other events, like Ohio
LinuxFest?01:09:03 <StabbyMc> VileGent, you still running point on
---^01:09:12 <PhrkOnLsh> I'm trying to get sponsored to represent
Fedora at ABLEconf in Phoenix AZ01:09:25 <VileGent> OLF happened and
we had a great turnout of people takeing media and asking questions
about fedora and the OLPC XO s01:09:47 <VileGent> spot, pascal
axelilly, and my son worked the both01:10:06 <StabbyMc> Way to use
that child labor VileGent!01:10:07 <VileGent> booth01:10:25 <slipp3d>
child labor is good for a few things01:10:25 <VileGent> used him at
SELF why not OLF01:10:30 <StabbyMc> Are tiny hands really better for
handing out media?01:10:34 <StabbyMc> ;-)01:10:46 <VileGent> StabbyMc,
 he is bigger than you01:11:02 <VileGent> eof01:11:04 <djf_jeff> I
have one for Ontario Linux Fest, I try contacting the organizer but
didn't receive any reply... but I got an email from Andrew
Overholt01:11:38 <djf_jeff> I want to know if we sponsor the event (it
give us a booth, table and network) for 100$?01:11:54 <inode0> yes, do
it01:12:16 <djf_jeff> good, I will reply to Andrew tomorrow
morning01:12:50 <inode0> we are trying to get some advertising for
FUDcon to you as well01:12:56 <djf_jeff> but, I don't want to bring an
old topic on the table, I need an event box for this. An empty table
will be wasted money01:12:57 <inode0> have you been contacted about
that yet?01:13:02 <djf_jeff> inode0: no01:13:31 <inode0> a table
without an event box is not wasted01:13:56 <djf_jeff> maybe, but all I
have is ~25 burned dvd and my laptop01:14:03 <inode0> you just opened
a ticket for swag/media today didn't you?01:14:38 <djf_jeff> yes, I
opened it this morning01:14:53 <djf_jeff> I currently try to find some
local company for swag to get price estimate01:15:06 <inode0> for this
we just need to ship it there01:15:33 <inode0> we are 2 weeks away at
this point, right?01:15:54 <djf_jeff> yes, two week from the Quebec
events01:16:01 <djf_jeff> a little bit more for OLF01:17:12 <StabbyMc>
djf_jeff: what swag are you wanting?01:17:22 <spevack> I have some
Live CDs and some buttons that I can ship if needed.01:17:31
<djf_jeff> anything, media, stickers, tatoos, pens, etc01:18:10
<StabbyMc> djf_jeff: those we have, what were you wanting to price out
from local vendors in CA?01:18:19 * inode0 suggests giving Brian a
chance to respond - if he needs help from others to fill parts we can
pitch in01:18:33 * djf_jeff agree with inode001:18:54 <inode0> he
might be low on media01:18:59 <djf_jeff> StabbyMc: if I produce the
swag locally for cheaper than shipping it here, it can help I
think01:19:16 <StabbyMc> Ah, OK, now I understand.01:19:56 <inode0>
right, that is a longer term solution but let's see what it costs to
ship stuff up01:20:20 <inode0> might not be bad01:20:42 <crossbytes> I
have F11 media that I can send if needed... for Ontario Linux Fest and
some stickers..01:20:44 <StabbyMc> Ok, if I understand right, djf_jeff
opened a Trac ticket for swag, inode0 is pricing to ship up.01:20:51
<djf_jeff> inode0: I called UPS, but damn, it's like entering a
maze... but, we can talk about this in #fedora-ambassadors01:21:14
<StabbyMc> Other events news?01:21:20 * inode0 is waiting for someone
else to price to ship up01:21:29 <PhrkOnLsh> I'm trying to get
sponsored to represent Fedora at ABLEconf in Phoenix AZ01:21:56
<inode0> sponsored to join ambassadors you mean, right?01:21:58
<VileGent> what is the event in PA this coming weekend01:22:06
<PhrkOnLsh> yes, herlo's mentoring me, inode001:22:33 <inode0> we
sometimes sponsor people to attend events, different thing01:22:56
<inode0> PhrkOnLsh: why don't you introduce yourself :)01:23:03
<PhrkOnLsh> oh, uhm, okay :-)01:23:14 <PhrkOnLsh> I'm Ryan Rix, Fedora
KDE SIG01:23:27 <PhrkOnLsh> ABLEconf presentations coordinator, and
soon to be ambassador :-)01:23:40 <StabbyMc> PhrkOnLsh: from
Pheonix?01:24:00 <PhrkOnLsh> I wanted to see Fedora represented at
ABLEconf and Clint said that I should just join Ambassadors and do it
myself, so here I am01:24:04 <PhrkOnLsh> StabbyMc: indeedy01:24:14
<VileGent> !01:24:22 * jds2001 here, sorry im late01:24:36 <PhrkOnLsh>
I'm going to be presenting at ABLEconf, a rehash of a presentation A.
Mani did at SFD Kolkata01:25:13 <PhrkOnLsh> and, uhm, yeah, hopefully
herlo will be sending me an ambassador kit for the event; I already
have a table lined up.01:25:30 <StabbyMc> PhrkOnLsh: Sounds like
you're all good to go.01:25:44 <inode0> we'll get you more than an
ambassador kit01:25:45 <PhrkOnLsh> indeed.01:25:59 <inode0> what
dates?01:26:02 <PhrkOnLsh> inode0: herlo told me that the event wasn't
in the FAmNA budget.01:26:05 <StabbyMc> 10/2401:26:10 <PhrkOnLsh>
Oct24 (same date as OLF)01:26:15 <PhrkOnLsh> (iirc)01:26:19 <inode0>
it wasn't but it can be01:26:39 <PhrkOnLsh> oh okie dokie :-)01:26:39
<inode0> whether it is or isn't in the budget we'll send you media and
some swag01:26:46 <PhrkOnLsh> okay, very cool01:27:00 <VileGent> to
cut down on confusion can we say ontario linuxfest or ohio linuxfest
please01:27:08 <StabbyMc> Other events news?01:27:19 <PhrkOnLsh>
sorry, Ontario01:27:23 <VileGent> http://www.cposc.org/01:27:46 *
jds2001 is doing cposc01:27:47 <inode0> PhrkOnLsh: keep poking herlo
in the ribs, he is busy with UTOSC but we need to get you
approved01:27:56 <VileGent> will ship out the horizonal banners
tomorrow  (been busy with funeral)01:28:00 <jds2001> unaware of if
brian will be there or not.01:28:12 <inode0> oh no01:28:15 <PhrkOnLsh>
inode0: Yeah, I will.01:28:23 <jds2001> he's got some $DAYJOB stuff
going on :/01:28:26 <inode0> so sorry VileGent01:28:36 <jds2001> oh,
yeah :(01:28:43 <PhrkOnLsh> inode0: do I need to do anything besides
poke him to get me approved?01:29:09 <inode0> ask him one more time
where things stand and I'll talk to him if there is an issue01:29:17
<PhrkOnLsh> alright, sounds good01:29:20 <PhrkOnLsh> thanks,
inode001:29:46 <StabbyMc> VileGent: so what did you wantt o know about
cposc?  (since jds2001 seems to know something)01:30:46 <jds2001> we
have a table, we'll need to provide extension cords01:30:54 <jds2001>
we're unable to hang anything on/from the walls01:31:02 * spevack
knows that we paid $100 in some sort of sponsorship.  We can scrounge
up more budget if needed01:31:23 <jds2001> spevack: you got my train
and hotel in there too, right?01:31:53 <VileGent> StabbyMc,  i was
suppose to send brian the banner for cposc last week but family
funeral got in the way01:31:53 * inode0 notes we approved travel
expenses for jds2001 last meeting01:32:07 <inode0> to fill in for
Brian on short notice01:32:28 <StabbyMc> Where are the vertical 4F
banners?01:32:35 <VileGent> jds2001,  email me your address info and i
will send you the banner01:32:43 <VileGent> utah01:32:48 <jds2001>
VileGent: will do right after the meeting01:32:48 <spevack> jds2001:
yep, just save your receipts01:33:07 <jds2001> spevack: i prepaid
everything, can i just give you confirmations?01:33:21 <jds2001> or do
you need something saying i actually did it?01:33:31 * jds2001 not
sure what to get for the train01:33:45 <StabbyMc> Can we get herlo to
ship them to jds2001 for CPOSC?  Or do we not really care that
much?01:34:02 <jds2001> it would be great if i had them.01:34:04
<inode0> I think he plans to if the timing works out01:34:31
<StabbyMc> Cool.  Looks like there's a week inbetween the two
events.01:34:46 <VileGent> the plan was to send to brian01:35:07
<VileGent> so if the plans have changed we need to let herlo
know01:35:13 <StabbyMc> So someone needs to tell herlo about the
change?01:35:17 <StabbyMc> Gah, beat me to it.01:35:19 <VileGent>
yes01:35:25 <inode0> jds2001 owns it :)01:35:29 <jds2001> ok
:)01:35:40 <VileGent> vertical banners tracking # to herlo
1Z69E53W036160811801:36:04 <StabbyMc> More events stuff?01:36:13
<VileGent> ups01:36:30 <StabbyMc> Events going twice01:36:49
<PhrkOnLsh> herlo's in #f-ambassadors atm01:36:56 * inode0 suggests
getting to the budget for the guy who knows about it nods off01:36:57
<StabbyMc> Three times...01:37:08 <StabbyMc> OK, budget it is.01:37:11
<inode0> before01:37:20 * StabbyMc yields the floor to spevack01:37:25
* herlo is here01:37:36 <StabbyMc> herlo: too late, no banners for
you.01:37:40 <PhrkOnLsh> hahaha01:37:43 <jds2001> herlo: i just sent
you email01:37:47 <herlo> lol01:37:49 <herlo> okay01:37:52 <herlo>
jds2001: kk01:38:09 <spevack> well01:38:20 <spevack> inode0 and ke4qqq
and I chatted a bit before the meeting01:38:28 <spevack> Just to do
some ballpark thinking about NA budget01:38:46 <spevack> Past
experiences w/ Media shows us that we should set aside $5k for
CDs/DVDs for Fedora 12.01:39:00 <spevack> Suggested that we also set
aside about $3k for other swag.01:39:02 <herlo> yes01:39:23 <spevack>
That gets us supplied w/ media & swag basically through the end of
february, which is the end of Red Hat's fiscal year.01:39:28 <slipp3d>
any thoughts about moving to usb drive installs instead of cd
/dvds????01:39:32 <spevack> So that's $8k.  We've spent $4k already
this quarter on NA.01:39:41 <PhrkOnLsh> spevack: those are more
expensive, aren't they?01:39:43 <VileGent> slipp3d,  too
expensive01:39:45 <spevack> We're tentatively setting aside another
$2k for "stuff we don't know about yet"01:39:58 <spevack> 01:40:01
<spevack> aside from that01:40:15 <PhrkOnLsh> er, sorry for the ping,
max :-)01:40:21 <spevack> any surplus budget in my team's Community
Architecture budget is going to be funneled towards FUDCon
Toronto01:40:29 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: we've talked about going to live
ISO only and stopping DVD, but haven't come to any decision.01:40:31
<spevack> with the idea of getting more community members to the event
with travel subsidies.01:40:50 <spevack> That discussion will happen
on fudcon-planning list, because pfrields needs to be part of it
also.01:41:01 <spevack> PhrkOnLsh: USBs are still too expensive,
regrettably.01:41:05 <spevack> So that's the high level budget
update.01:41:20 <PhrkOnLsh> spevack: yup, that should've gone to
slipp3d ;-) tab-complete fail01:41:20 <spevack> I guess I'll yield for
questions, and comments.  Basically "is there anything NA needs that
it's not getting?"01:41:33 <spevack> PhrkOnLsh: no worries01:41:41
<spevack> EOF01:41:48 <jds2001> spevack: a million dollars for each
ambassador? :D01:41:58 * herlo seconds jds2001's motion01:42:01
<StabbyMc> spevack: any inkling about what Big Daddy RH is going to do
about the budget in FY11?01:42:25 * slipp3d thirds jds200101:42:29
<slipp3d> :D01:42:37 * djf_jeff is away for 10 minutes01:43:01
<spevack> StabbyMc: my current speculation would be "no significant
changes" and if we have some interesting proposals for a new thing
that we want to try in NA that could generate interesting value, then
we lobby for some extra budget for that too.01:43:20 <spevack>
StabbyMc: budget planning doesn't really start until after we all get
back from Xmas01:43:48 <spevack> er, Winter Holidays.  Political
Correctness FAIL01:44:02 <StabbyMc> spevack: I didn't get into it
until February, thought it might have just been my dept.   ;-)01:44:49
<slipp3d> is there anything in place for getting shirts for people...
a few of the people in my area that moved to Fedora would love to
order some of the shirts but I don't know where to send
them...01:45:10 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: We've got some Tees.01:45:33
<StabbyMc> slipp3d: I'm working on finding a source for something like
an embroidered button up.01:46:27 <slipp3d> StabbyMc, when you get a
line on those could you email/ping me or something ... a few of the
people around here are really wanting them since they moved to
fedora01:46:45 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: I'll do that.01:47:03 <StabbyMc> I
know there's significant interest in it, I'll work more on it next
week when I'm on the bench.01:47:17 <slipp3d> thanks StabbyMc01:47:27
<inode0> brand fuel has them for sale I believe01:47:39 <slipp3d> if
there is anything that I can do to help out let me know...01:47:40
<spevack> speaking of Brand Fuel01:47:54 <StabbyMc> I posted another
swag item to #fedora-ambassadors, and think it got shot down, but just
wanted to be sure.  Crocs jibbitz or charms; that was a no
right?01:47:58 <spevack> it's on my TODO list, at the request of the
Fedora Board, to "wind down" Fedora's association w/ Brand
Fuel.01:48:16 <spevack> In short -- buy up whatever swag they still
have, and then close down the Fedora portion of the Brand Fuel
store01:48:37 <spevack> not at the top of my TODO list, but on my TODO
list.01:49:05 <PhrkOnLsh> spevack: why is that?01:49:05 <jds2001>
what's the reasoning, just so I know?01:49:13 <jds2001> We don't have
anything to replace it with atm.01:49:29 <StabbyMc> I'm guessing
because BrandFuel is crazy expensive...01:49:39 <jds2001> that they
are....01:49:43 <inode0> they aren't that bad for hats and
shirts01:49:44 <slipp3d> what is the link for the brandfuel
site?01:49:58 <crossbytes> http://www.brandfuel.com/01:49:59 <spevack>
StabbyMc: yes, that's the reason01:50:09 <inode0> and I'll be sad to
see the hats disappear without ever getting one :)01:50:10 <jds2001>
http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/01:50:30 <spevack> inode0: only the
fedora stuff... if you need a fedora ballcap, i'll make sure you get
one :)01:50:32 <inode0> because I can't see us producing those any
time soon01:50:32 <StabbyMc> spevack: are we looking to make money
from selling fedora merchandise?01:50:54 <PhrkOnLsh> inode0: grab one
up :-)01:51:25 <PhrkOnLsh> what, only ball caps, no fedora?01:51:26 *
PhrkOnLsh ducks01:51:36 <spevack> StabbyMc: depends who you ask.  ;)
Problem #1 (which is a whole separate conversation) is that there
isn't really a great way to manage small amounts of money.01:51:39
<jds2001> the RHCE pint glasses are gone!01:51:44 <inode0> you can get
a fedora too, from the redhat part of the store01:52:11 <StabbyMc>
spevack: you're referring to the suck that is RH Finance?01:52:23
<spevack> spevack: in a more polite way, yes :)01:52:54 <inode0> I
really don't want to mess with tax and stuff associated with selling
on our end01:53:38 <inode0> prefer a tip jar :)01:53:38 <spevack>
yeah... my gut feeling right now is that the amount of work to do this
isn't worth the small amount of money that it would be, and that
swag-as-marketing-and-general-morale-boosters is the right way to
go.01:53:43 <StabbyMc> inode0: I don't want to deal with the shipping
and stuff associated with selling on our end...01:54:09 <spevack>
there's more useful things that we can all do w/ our time,
IMHO01:54:14 <inode0> we deal with that somewhat as producers
though01:54:38 * slipp3d second spevack  thought01:54:39 <StabbyMc>
spevack: so what I'm taking from this is keep doing what we're doing,
but if we happen to run into someone that is an e-tailer who can do
all the supply chain stuff for cheap, but kick some good money our
way, take note.01:54:48 <dramsey> +1 for time and
swag-as-marketing-and-general-morale-boosters.  :)01:55:23 <spevack>
StabbyMc: i'd say that's fair01:55:24 <inode0> it would be nice to
have a store so things were more available to people in the fedora
community01:55:32 <inode0> I don't think it is about money01:55:41
<slipp3d> +1 inode0 ...01:55:49 <spevack> inode0: the thing that we
made a TODO out of FAD EMEA was a hybrid:01:55:52 <inode0> but it is
about quality01:56:05 <spevack> (1) a ticket tracker for swag to get
from point A to point B01:56:15 <spevack> (2) a wiki page that is
basically "EMEA Swag Inventory" so that people can know what is
where01:56:24 <spevack> and request stuff appropriately01:56:32
<spevack> (3) a direct-bill shipping account like we already have in
NA01:56:42 <spevack> so it's not a "store" but it's a useful
resource01:56:47 <StabbyMc> Do we have an inventory page?01:56:54
<inode0> no01:57:15 <inode0> I'm not overly enthusiastic about
counting buttons either :)01:57:21 <StabbyMc> lulz01:57:34 <spevack>
inode0: I'm thinking we could estimate01:57:35 <inode0> but I'll play
along01:57:44 <spevack> "inode0 has a lot of buttons"01:57:45
<VileGent> or tats01:57:47 <spevack> then two weeks later01:57:56
<spevack> "inode0 has a few buttons, probably enough for 2
events"01:57:59 <spevack> stuff like that01:58:04 <spevack> no one
wants to count buttons or tattoos01:58:05 <StabbyMc> Time to move on
to Task List Review?01:58:15 * StabbyMc notes that it's getting
late.01:58:18 <inode0> our FAIL01:58:20 * spevack shuts up :)01:58:29
<VileGent> spevack,  nope dont shut up01:58:51 <jds2001> 10pm is
late?01:59:03 <jds2001> lets go til 2AM :D01:59:07 <StabbyMc> Maybe we
can discuss some more in #f-a after the meeting?01:59:14 <slipp3d> I
like the idea of having a inventory page even if it's just a rough
estimates01:59:14 <StabbyMc> jds2001: no more Red Bull for
you.01:59:18 <inode0> from past history I'd say we are finished with
the task list now01:59:37 <StabbyMc> Ok, so then Open Floor?01:59:40
<spevack> +1 to rough estimates, -1 to counting grains of sand01:59:40
<inode0> someone really needs to drive that or we should abandon
it01:59:53 <inode0> the task list could be very useful, if we would
use it02:00:11 <inode0> if for nothing else than documenting what we
accomplish02:00:35 <slipp3d> and what is needed to
accomplish...02:00:51 <inode0> if we put tasks on the task list I
could answer that02:00:55 <StabbyMc> Maybe instead of a Task List it
should be an Accomplishments List?02:01:27 <VileGent> well it owuld be
nice to have venders of swag we have bought from like the case badges
as an example02:01:41 <inode0> oh spevack :)02:01:53 <spevack>
VileGent: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors02:02:04
<spevack> needs a bit of updating, which I will do, since there are
vendors listed on another page as well02:02:10 <spevack> inode0: is
that what you were going to say?02:02:20 <inode0> we'll expand that
link02:02:34 <inode0> no, I just knew you had a link handy02:03:07
<dramsey> Yes to updating the link.  I have a vendor in North Carolina
which does great work and very reasonable pricing.02:03:18 <StabbyMc>
So then, new business?02:03:20 <inode0> vendor of what?02:03:26
<dramsey> Oh, shirts and hats.02:03:31 * StabbyMc notes that 10:00p is
not late, but an hour long meeting is long.02:03:36 <inode0> hats, we
have our hat man!02:03:40 <VileGent> case badges are something that
people seems to love as swag and we have had a request for window
clings02:03:42 <dramsey> The textile factory....02:03:48 <dramsey>
Okay.02:04:01 <inode0> just a point02:04:09 <StabbyMc> I'll update the
vendor page to also include the vendor for the Fedora Pens that we
used.02:04:18 <inode0> this list should be vendors fedora has done
business with and is happy with02:04:51 <inode0> but we should talk
about what they can do and perhaps try them02:05:08 <PhrkOnLsh>
Offhand: Everyone is invited to ABLEconf, no fees to attend. PROTIP:
If you stay until sunday you can blast Aaron Seigo to pieces in
Nexuiz.02:05:36 <PhrkOnLsh> I gotta hit it, my class is over. May be
online later, probably not.02:05:37 <inode0> dramsey: are you back in
the states now?02:05:41 <jds2001> when/where is that?02:05:49
<PhrkOnLsh> Phoenix AZ, Oct2402:05:50 <dramsey> Nope...near Tokyo
right now.02:06:08 <slipp3d> PhrkOnLsh, if I was closer i would be
there....02:06:12 <StabbyMc> Ok, so what other new business we
got?02:06:13 <jds2001> Ahh, cool - I'll be in Fredericksburg VA that
day though :(02:06:15 <dramsey> I am suppose to do an APAC meeting
this weekend, so I am trying practice...I'll be free this weekend, so
no on call... :)02:06:19 <PhrkOnLsh> ehm, i still have 15min02:06:28
<PhrkOnLsh> hi larry02:06:34 <StabbyMc> New business?02:06:38 *
lcafiero sneaks into the back of the room and sits down02:06:43
<StabbyMc> Open Floor items?02:06:53 <inode0> one thing02:07:02
<VileGent> i thought thats what we were doing02:07:11 <lcafiero> one
thing after inode002:07:16 <inode0> I have volunteered to stop leading
the meetings after next meeting02:07:32 * sseiersen is here really
late.02:07:38 <slipp3d> third thing...02:07:38 <PhrkOnLsh> lcafiero:
we voted you out of FAmNA while you were gone.02:07:44 <inode0> It
would be nice if we figured out where we are going so it could be
announced next time02:07:53 <inode0> not tonight, but between now and
then02:07:59 <sseiersen> inode0: I can02:08:14 <inode0> that was all I
had02:08:20 <StabbyMc> inode0: if no one objects to how it worked
tonight, I can keep doing it too.02:08:54 <dramsey> +102:08:56 *
slipp3d thinks that StabbyMc did a nice job....02:09:11 * StabbyMc was
fishing for complements, and caught one!02:09:16 <StabbyMc>
Yea!02:09:22 <dramsey> me, too.02:09:23 <crossbytes> +1 for
StabbyMc02:09:32 <PhrkOnLsh> as the first meeting i've attending in
#fedora-meeting, +1 :-)02:09:54 * VileGent thinks StabbyMc  will be
doing fine once he figures out the meetbot02:10:04 <jds2001> as the
umpteenth meeting I've attended in #fedora-meeting, +1 :D02:10:08
<inode0> yeah, he has a bit of work there02:10:10 <lcafiero> .fas
lcafiero02:10:11 <zodbot> lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero'
<larrycafiero at cruzio.com>02:10:12 <spevack> yes, my thanks to StabbyMc
for running the meeting02:10:20 <lcafiero> just to make it official I
attended.02:10:24 <jds2001> if you need help with meetbot, I'm one of
the experts :D02:10:31 <jds2001> me and nirik :)02:10:31 <StabbyMc>
OK, so I think that's done.02:10:34 <jds2001> .fas jstanley02:10:35
<zodbot> jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley'
<jonstanley at gmail.com>02:10:42 <lcafiero> Announcement?02:10:46
<StabbyMc> lcafiero: you said you had an open floor item?02:10:54
<lcafiero> Yes, thanks, StabbyMc02:11:05 <lcafiero> Utah Open Source
Conference starts Thursday.02:11:09 <PhrkOnLsh> okay, i"m out, later
guys!02:11:20 * spevack says goodnight02:11:21 <lcafiero> There's a
FAD on Thursday at 12:30 MST02:11:23 <spevack> "goodnight"02:11:30
<PhrkOnLsh> bon nuit02:11:32 <lcafiero> I'm losing my audience02:11:42
* jds2001 is still here :)02:11:46 <StabbyMc> meeting bot is still
listening ;-)02:11:48 <lcafiero> Anyway, there's a channel on
#fedora-fad where you can remotely participate if you so
desire.02:11:50 <crossbytes> is there going to be an irc? for the
FAD02:12:00 <lcafiero> #fedora-fad02:12:19 <VileGent> lcafiero,
12:30am or pm02:12:23 <jds2001> umm, we're somewhat planning on using
that channel for F-talk FAD prep, but two can use it i guess02:12:24
<lcafiero> Someone in Europe set it up (I can't remember who --
sorry)02:12:40 <lcafiero> Well, it could last to 12:30 a.m., but it's
12:30 p.m. Mountain Time02:12:49 * inode0 teases with the corn FAD
being planned for the middle of next year some time02:13:13 <lcafiero>
You couldn't use meeting, jds2001?02:13:40 * lcafiero is just
asking.02:13:49 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: you had something for Open
Floor?02:13:53 <jds2001> lcafiero: it's more of an ad-hoc
thing02:14:00 <jds2001> our meetings are on tuesdays til the
fad02:14:04 <lcafiero> Well, it could get confusing.02:14:06 <jds2001>
so that's no problem there02:14:32 <sseiersen> 002:14:43 <jds2001>
we'll use #fedora-admin or whatever02:14:56 <lcafiero> thanks,
jds200102:14:59 <lcafiero> I owe you one02:15:14 <jds2001> so when's
this, just next thursday?02:15:23 <slipp3d> never mind StabbyMc I
forgot was i was going bring up02:15:49 <dramsey> StabbyMc, I had an
FYI on F12 thought...02:15:49 <VileGent> jds2001,  this
thursday02:16:05 <StabbyMc> dramsey: all you.02:16:09 <dramsey>
Okay...02:16:24 <dramsey> An FYI, from
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/Schedule#Fedora_12_Release_Schedule
looks like Fedora 12 is now at November 10th.02:16:38 <lcafiero>
jds2001: yes.02:16:41 <dramsey> F12 beta is moved back another week,
October 20th, too.02:16:47 <dramsey> That's all.02:16:48 <dramsey>
:)02:16:56 <lcafiero> My understanding was that it was for use with
fad events, but I could be mistaken02:17:01 <jds2001> indeed
:(02:17:10 <jds2001> lcafiero: we are having a FAD02:17:23 <jds2001>
around Fedora Talk, but have a lot of prep to do.02:17:34 <crossbytes>
no that is what it was set up for it was in the list. ur r right
Larry02:17:37 <inode0> prep somewhere more appropriate :)02:18:00
<sseiersen> #UTOSC-FAD ?02:18:33 <StabbyMc> Other new
business?02:18:34 * jds2001 makes #fedora-fad-planning :D02:18:38
<inode0> having as many fads as possible use fedora-fad is helpful to
us lurking02:18:39 * jds2001 shuts up02:18:52 * StabbyMc notes we can
continue to barrate jds2001 all night in #f-a ..02:19:31 <StabbyMc>
Other new business?02:19:45 <StabbyMc> 302:19:48 <crossbytes> Joerg
Simon set it up I think it should be used as jds2001 wants to but
yield to acual fads in progress02:19:58 <StabbyMc> 202:20:13
<StabbyMc> 102:20:21 <lcafiero> out02:20:23 <lcafiero> :-)02:20:29
<StabbyMc> Back to #fedora-ambassadors :-)02:20:32 <inode0> thanks
StabbyMc02:20:34 <dramsey> :)  Thank you StabbyMc, good job indeed.
:)02:20:38 <dramsey> out, too.02:20:39 <VileGent> StabbyMc,
#endmeeting02:20:39 <jds2001> you need to end the meeting :)02:20:43
<lcafiero> kudos StabbyMc02:20:47 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora meetings 'n
stuff02:20:56 <jds2001> no, #endmeeting02:20:59 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting
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