Fedora Weekly News #164

Pascal Calarco pcalarco at nd.edu
Mon Feb 23 18:59:17 UTC 2009


Fedora Weekly News Issue 164

Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 164 for the week ending February 
22nd, 2009.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue164

This week Announcements showcases Fedora Unity respins of Fedora 10, 
PlanetFedora selects some great blog entries on how to tag audio streams 
in PulseAudio and use func, QualityAssurance explains how to participate 
in test days, Developments covers the "Fedora 11 Mass Rebuild", 
Translations describes the new "L10n Infrastructure Team", Artwork 
covers some pretty "Evolving Fedora 11 Artwork" and Virtualization 
examines attempts to bridge the gap between libvirt and host network 
interface configuration.

If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see 
our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com

FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala

    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join

-- Announcements --

In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents

Contributing Writer: Max Spevack

--- General ---

Your faithful correspondent announced[1] that this year's European 
FUDCon will be held in Berlin from June 26 - 28, overlapping partially 
with LinuxTag. Everyone is encouraged to read the full announcement and 
to register[2] for the event.

Ben Williams, whose wife knits incredible scarves with Tux on them, 
announced[3] that a new set of Fedora 10 respins have been released by 
the Fedora Unity[4] team, containing all updates through February 10.
  Technical

Jesse Keating reminded[5] the community that "due to a number of 
features, every package in Fedora 11 needs to be rebuilt." A wiki 
page[6] has been created that package maintainers should look to for 
more information.

Peter Gordon announced[7] that an update to rb_libtorrent includes a 
soname bump that impacts other packages.

--- Upcoming Events ---

February 27 - March 1: FOSSMeet @ NITC[8] in Calicut, India.

February 28: Fedora Round Table[9] in Karlsruhe, Germany.

March 5-7: Computer Using Educators[10] in Palm Springs, CA.

March 9: Florida Linux Show[11] in Jacksonville, FL.

March 10-12: FOSE[12] in Washington, DC.

March 13-15: Chemnitzer Linux Tage[13] in Chemnitz, Germany.

--- FUDCon Berlin 2009 ---

FUDCon Berlin[14] will be held from June 26 - 28 in Berlin, Germany.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00010.html
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00009.html
    4. http://fedoraunity.org
    5. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00011.html
    6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
    7. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00014.html
    8. http://nitc.fossmeet.in/
    9. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FRT
   10. http://www.cue.org/conference/
   11. http://floridalinuxshow.com/
   12. http://fose.com/
   13. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CLT
   14. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConBerlin2009

-- Planet Fedora --

In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an 
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.

http://planet.fedoraproject.org

Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin

--- General ---

Michael DeHaan discussed[1] various Linux system configuration applets 
and some ideas how to unify/integrate them. On an unrelated note, he 
also wrote[2] about HTML Slidey[3]: Slide Shows in XHTML.

Gary Benson announced[4] that Zero has passed the Java SE 6 TCK, which 
means that OpenJDK in Fedora 10 for 32 and 64 bit PowerPC-based systems 
are now pretty much guaranteed to run anything you can throw at them.

Daniel Walsh explained[5],[6] some SELinux history, voodoo and how to 
rebuild bits of the policy RPMs.

Jeremy Katz reviewed[7] the book Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug and 
how that applies to web usability.

Red Hat Magazine[8] spotlighted[9] Func, which "makes it easy to write 
commands across large numbers of machines remotely and securely".

Ankur Sinha wrote[10] an article about the history of Fedora and its 
four core values.

Jef Spaleta wondered[11] how popular Git was, and found some interesting 
statistics from GitHub. He also discovered that apparently some[12] 
Canonical developers (the kernel folks) do used Git instead of Bzr.

Roland Wolters announced[13] that RPM Fusion[14] ("a merge of several 
former Fedora 3rd party repositories providing licence/patent 
problematic packages") has entered the testing state.

Ryan Lerch described[15] how to "Create a Lightbulb Icon that follows 
the tango! guidelines".

Jack Aboutboul wrote[16] about what can be done to rejuvinate Fedora 
Marketing.

Lennart Poettering explained[17] how to "tag" audio streams so that 
Pulse Audio can automatically manage sound policy ("For example, 
starting in 0.9.15, we will automatically pause your media player while 
a phone call is going on").

Seth Vidal described[18] how to adapt to the change to SHA256 checksums 
in yum/createrepo on EL5.

    1. http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=862
    2. http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=871
    3. http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#(1)
    4. http://gbenson.net/?p=130
    5. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26428.html
    6. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26759.html
    7. http://velohacker.com/fedora-notes/recent-reading-web-usability/
    8. http://magazine.redhat.com/
    9. http://magazine.redhat.com/2009/02/17/video-spotlight-on-func/
   10. 
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/fedora-article-for-the-lugm-magazine/
   11. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/34910.html
   12. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/35246.html
   13. 
http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/rpm-fusion-enters-testing-state/
   14. http://rpmfusion.org/
   15. 
http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/create-a-lightbulb-icon-that-follows-the-tango-guidelines/
   16. http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/02/new-fedora-marketing.html
   17. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/tagging-audio.html
   18. 
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/yum-createrepo-hashlib-rhel5centos5-and-sha256sums/

--- Events ---

Francesco Crippa posted[1] some photos from FOSDEM 2009.

    1. http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2009/02/16/fosdem-2009/

-- QualityAssurance --

In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1].

Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson

    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA

--- Test Days ---

This week's regular test day[1] was on 20 Second Startup[2]. Harald 
Hoyer was the developer present, and there was a great turnout of 20 
people contributing test results. Further results are still welcome from 
anyone - a full set of instructions for running tests is available on 
the Wiki page. As a result of the testing, Harald has made several 
modifications already that will help to optimize boot times for Fedora 11.

Next week's test day[3] will be on the Crash Catcher[4] feature planned 
for Fedora 11, which aims to make it easy for non-power uses to file 
useful reports when an application crashes. It will be held on Thursday 
(2009-02-26) in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC. Please drop by 
if you would like to help test this important new feature for Fedora 11 
- no special equipment or expertise required!

    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-19
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/20SecondStartup
    3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-26
    4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CrashCatcher

--- Weekly meetings ---

The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-02-18. The full log is 
available[2]. Will Woods gave a status report on the progress of the 
autoqa[3] project, which is working on creating automated test scripts 
to run whenever certain events happen. The group agreed to create an 
autoqa component in the fedora-qa trac instance, and create a new 
mailing list for autoqa reports to be sent to (this will not be a 
discussion list). Adam Williamson, James Laska and Jóhann Guðmundsson 
then initiated a discussion about creating a short-term solution for 
more organized reporting and collection of test results. Follow up a 
mailing list discussion, a system created by the Laptop.org[4] project, 
implemented as a Mediawiki plugin, was discussed. The group agreed that 
it seemed suited to the purpose, and James will propose it to the 
Infrastructure group, to see if they approve of the system, and whether 
they would prefer it to be added to the main Wiki or a special-purpose 
Wiki instance created just for this use. Finally, the group discussed 
the (then) upcoming test day, and agreed preparations were well in hand.

The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[5] was held on 2009-02-17. The full 
log is available[6]. A broad initial goal for the Bugzappers project was 
agreed: to stabilize the number of bugs in NEW (i.e. un-triaged) status 
on the components previously agreed to be the most significant. Brennan 
Ashton's metric reporting tool will be used to track this. Brennan 
demonstrated the current state of his tool on a small set of test data, 
to general approval. The group voted on Adam Williamson's proposal to 
have a stock signature appended to comments by members of the Bugzappers 
team in Bugzilla, both to identify the Bugzappers and to increase the 
visibility of the project. This was approved, and Matej Cepl will 
implement it using Greasemonkey, adding it to the Greasemonkey script 
already used by most Bugzappers.

The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-02-25 at 1600 UTC in 
#fedora-qa, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-02-24 at 1700 
UTC in #fedora-bugzappers.

    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings
    2. http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090218.log.html
    3. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=summary
    4. http://www.laptop.org
    5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings
    6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Feb-17

--- Wiki re-organization ---

Adam Williamson announced[1] that the first phase of the Wiki 
re-organization project was complete, with the new front page and 'how 
to join in' page for the QA Wiki space put into place.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00710.html

--- Reporting bugs to Bugzilla ---

Christopher Beland encouraged[1] testers to report bugs to Bugzilla as 
well as sending a mail about them to the test-list mailing list, and 
told the group that he had added some text to this effect to the QA 
group front page on the Wiki. Adam Williamson suggested[2] that the text 
might be better placed on the Wiki page about how properly to report 
bugs, rather than the QA group front page.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00837.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00844.html

--- Semantic - test reporting plugin for Mediawiki ---

James Laska sent in a report[1] on Semantic, the Laptop.org project's 
Mediawiki extension for managing test reports.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00756.html

--- Encouraging Rawhide testing ---

Mark McLoughlin made some suggestions[1] about how to improve the 
ongoing quality and consistency of Rawhide, in order to make it possible 
for more people to test it. He suggested that a definition should be 
made of what should be expected to work in Rawhide all the time - e.g. 
basic installation, booting, network and a few core applications - and a 
RawhideBlocker tracker bug be created on Bugzilla to track bugs in 
Rawhide which breaks any of these functions, with the intention that 
those bugs be addressed as a matter of high priority.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00846.html

-- Developments --

In this section the people, personalities and debates on the 
@fedora-devel mailing list are summarized.

Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley

--- Fedora 11 Mass Rebuild ---

Some complications resulting from the inconsistent application of Fedora 
Packaging Guidelines were manifested when the mass rebuild discussed 
last week(FWN#163[1]) gained[2] a more concrete shape. Jesse Keating 
posted[3] a request that all maintainers would read the wiki page 
describing what needs to be done, especially the Maintainer Actions section.

The rebuild should kick-off this Monday (2009-02-23). The wiki page 
describes the relatively narrow timeframe in which maintainers can 
attempt their own rebuilds and the way in which they can avoid the 
auto-rebuild.

Concern was expressed by Tom Lane that the rebuilds were non-ordered. 
Jesse responded[4] that ordered builds were "[...] generally only are 
necessary when bumping sonames or otherwise bootstrapping items. Given 
that neither of those apply for this rebuild, effort spent trying to 
order and chain builds would be effort wasted." Ralf Corsepius 
challenged[5] this with the observation that pkgconfig BuildRequires are 
added automatically. Ralf suggested[6] the problem could be solved by 
"[...] checking which packages in current rawhide contain *.pc's but do 
not Provide nor Require pkgconfig(foo) and to rebuild them (in manually 
presorted order) in advance to the mass rebuild."

Jon Masters appreciated[7] Jesse's work and worried that the rebuild 
might leave some statically built binaries using i386 instead of the 
promised i586 (see FWN#162[8]). Subsequent rebuilds were suggested as a 
means to work around the problem but Jesse preferred to identify 
specific problems and stated[9]: "I think the most I'd be willing to do 
would be a second build pass across the static packages. IMHO everything 
else should be left up to testing discovery and fixing the assumptions 
rather than hiding them."

Another approach was suggested by Conrad Meyer based on using 
BuildRequires: *-static. When Ralf replied that this would not work 
because many packagers who had not used static subpackages Conrad 
pointed[10] to the guidelines. Nicolas Mailhot ruefully responded[11] 
that his experience with the fonts guidelines suggested that enforcement 
was necessary. Later discussion with Jakub Jelínek about the presence of 
libc.a in glibc-devel suggested[12] that it will not be simple to apply 
this particular guideline to glibc without gcc -static ceasing to behave 
as expected.

    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue163#Mass_Rebuild_Coming_Soon
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01281.html
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01287.html
    5. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01297.html
    6. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01303.html
    7. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01298.html
    8. 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set
    9. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01300.html
   10. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01307.html
   11. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01312.html
   12. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01322.html

--- Virtual Provides for Login Managers ---

Following problems reported[1] with booting to runlevel 5 by default 
with the slim login-manager [Lumens] sugges:ted[2] that "[...] all 
packages containing a login manager include a special Provides: that we 
can query on." This would allow anaconda to determine whether a 
login-manager is installed without the difficulties of curating a list.

Patrice Dumas, and others, provided[3] a good deal of feedback which 
seems to have led to a consensus that Provides: service(graphical-login) 
will be added to all packages which provide a login manager.

An interesting sub-thread developed in which Colin Walters argued[4] 
that adding display managers (other than gdm and kdm should be strongly 
discouraged. This was met[5] with a good deal of disagreement from Tom 
Callaway and Seth Vidal.

Colin explained[6] that the ramifications of changing such an integral 
part of the OS were complex and that while anyone should be free to add 
such software it should also be "[...] within the rights of the people 
working on the desktop to close any bugs filed by people using something 
else WONTFIX." Jesse Keating and Seth Vidal seemed[7] to agree that it 
should be possible for the Fedora Project do define specs to which login 
managers should conform.

The thread blossomed into several discussions. One focused on the 
technical challenges occasioned[8] by the interaction of GDM, PAM, 
gnome-keyring, NetworkManager and ConsoleKit. Another saw[9] Toshio 
Kuratomi and Colin debating the strategic merits of making it more or 
less easy for interested parties to add their software to the Fedora 
Project ecosystem.

    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485789
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01237.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01399.html
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01400.html
    5. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01403.html
    6. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01404.html
    7. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01407.html
    8. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01408.html
    9. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01434.html

--- Reducing the Number of (Dis)Charge Cycles for Laptop Batteries ---

A certain amount of excitement resulted when Brad Longo asked[1]: "[...] 
if Fedora's power management tool has something built in so that when 
the battery reaches full charge, it will then discharge to lets say 
around 95% before beginning to charge again." The excitement arose from 
Brad's premise that "[...] leaving your laptop plugged in and charging 
with a full battery charge is harmful for the battery."

Several responses rejected[2] the premise and pointed out that smart 
chargers implement trickle-mode charging. Matthew Garrett replied[3] 
with some specific information about how laptop battery charging happens 
at a firmware-controlled threshold level. Matthew speculated that Brad 
wanted "[...] presumably an interface to modify that threshold. This is 
device specific. The tp_smapi driver (which is not in the kernel for 
exceedingly dull reasons) allows this to be configured on Thinkpads. I 
don't believe that we know how to on any other systems." Hans Ulrich 
Niedermann had[4] an out-of-kernel module for tm_smapi which was 
configurable via /etc/sysconfig.

Matthew Saltzman reported[5] some experiences with Windows setting the 
charge-threshold to 85% which is supposed to lengthen the battery life. 
Callum Lerwick referenced[6] a Wikipedia article which claimes that the 
"[...] optimal storage charge for a Li-Ion is %40. Also, heat causes 
Li-Ion batteries to degenerate much faster, so if you're really worried 
about preserving your battery, don't leave it in the laptop while it's 
running. Yet another argument for less power usage. Less power, less 
heat, longer battery service life. Fewer toxic batteries going in to the 
land fill if you like that angle."

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01194.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01201.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01202.html
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01257.html
    5. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01269.html
    6. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01304.html

--- config.guess Reporting Incorrect Configuration Name? ---

Panu Matilainen asked[1] if it was a problem that the config.guess 
script from autotools no longer reported "redhat" as the manufacturer 
part of the configuration triplet. Panu referenced the documentation 
which suggests that "[...] the manufacturer part of the configuration 
name is the manufacturer of the CPU, not `OS vendor' so the former 
`redhat' was always incorrect. I don't know the history behind the 
decision to stomp `redhat' in there to begin with nor why it was then 
dropped later on. But having gotten used to it, people occasionally 
think the `unknown' (or `pc' for that matter) is a bug."

While Jakub Jelínek thought that providing the "redhat" string provided 
more information than "pc" or "unknown" Stepan Kaspal argued[2] strongly 
that reverting to maintaining such a patch was wrong. He suggested that 
either upstream should be convinced to change the use of "manufacturer" 
or that the %configure macro in the specfile could be used to explicitly 
avoid calling config.guess. From here on the thread became too 
technically detailed to summarize although it is relatively brief as of 
going to press. Those learned in the lore of autotools and 
cross-compilation will find much to gladden their hearts.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01338.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01355.html

--- Build-time Trapping of Python Syntax Errors ---

Tim Waugh initiated[1] verification that Python code can be parsed 
correctly: "[...] since we are already byte-compiling Python code at 
build time, it is no extra effort to verify that it can be parsed and 
fail if not."

Reaction was[2] uniformly positive and when Panu Matilainen explained 
the simple errors which the byte compile would catch and suggested[3] a 
simple method of determining affected packages Florian Festi took up the 
challenge.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01563.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01574.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01584.html

--- YUM Plans for Transition to Fedora 12 i686 Architecture ---

When Paul Howarth asked[1]: "Now that Fedora 11 x86_32 is going to be 
based on i586 packages rather than i386 packages, does it follow that 
yum's $basearch will change from i386 to i586 and hence repository 
directory layouts changing too, or will it stay at i386?" a brief 
discussion between Seth Vidal and Josh Boyer started[2] with a 
discussion over whether repositories should be named after specific 
architectures.

Seth Vidal differentiated between $arch and $basearch and explained[3]: 
"The whole reason I liked used $arch was that it meant when fedora 
stopped producing a 586 compatible tree, we didn't stop any one else 
from making a 586 compat tree and having it available like secondary 
arches are." Jesse Keating explained[4] that "i386" was a misnomer for 
the x86 offering. Josh Boyer was[5] unsure whether i586 would actually 
"go away" for Fedora 12. Dennis Gilmore was sure that it would and 
offered[6]: "Anyone who wants to continue i586 support post F11 i look 
forward to talking to about setting up i586 as a secondary arch."

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01533.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01551.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01557.html
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01561.html
    5. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01581.html
    6. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01587.html

-- Translation --

This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) 
Project.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N

Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee

--- L10n Infrastructure Team ---

In response to PaulFrields' call[1] for putting in place an L10n 
Infrastructure team, FLSCo announced a 4 member team to oversee the 
Fedora Localization Project Infrastructure operations[2]. The team 
includes DimitrisGlezos, DiegoZacarao, AsgeirFrimannsson and AnkitPatel.

    1. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00103.html
    2. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00120.html

--- Proposed L10n Infrastructure Plan for Fedora 11 ---

Earlier, DimitrisGlezos had announced[1] a proposed roadmap for the L10n 
Infrastructure for Fedora 11 Translation period. This included using 
Transifex version 0.5 for generation and display of statistics in place 
of Damned Lies and Transifex version 0.3 for submissions. A test 
interface of this setup is currently available at: 
http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/tx/languages/

AsgeirFrimannsson suggested[2] an alternative approach to use the new 
Django supported version of Damned Lies for statistics and to also test 
its possible utilisation for translation submission.

    1. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00089.html
    2. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00093.html

--- Sponsor Role for Translation Team Coordinators ---

FLSCo member NorikoMizumoto has requested[1] all the coordinators for 
the existing Translation Teams to inform about their FAS account names 
so that they could be upgraded to the role of "Sponsor". This would help 
the new members in their team to be approved faster.

    1. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00080.html

--- New Members in FLP ---

Peter Belko (Slovak)[1], Seyyed Mohsen Saeedi (Persian)[2], Jorge Izaac 
Zavaleta Escalante (Spanish)[3], and Victor Lopez (Spanish)[4] joined 
the Fedora Translation Project last week,

    1. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00106.html
    2. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00109.html
    3. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00111.html
    4. 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00112.html

-- Artwork --

In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork

Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei

--- Evolving Fedora 11 Artwork ---

Paul Frields expressed[1] concern on @fedora-art about the artwork 
process and the Fedora 11 schedule: "The F11 Beta freeze arrives on 
March 10th, and it would be good to have a background ready somewhat 
before that so there's time to tweak it before the freeze[.]" In 
reply[2] Máirí­n Duffy was confident: "I *think* we're going to be okay. 
I'll know by Monday whether or not we might have an issue." and called 
for a work session over the week-end "I am going to cram this weekend 
and try to iterate on what we've got. If anyone's with me, pop in 
#fedora-art this weekend :)"

In the meantime [[Paolo Leoni and Thomas Kole experimented[3][4] with an 
alternate concept[5] based on world maps, navigation and ships.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00050.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00068.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00053.html
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00064.html
    5. 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:F11-wallpaper-night-deepsky-mockup2.jpg

-- Virtualization --

In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, 
@fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora 
virtualization technologies.

Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley

--- Enterprise Management Tools List ---

This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list

---- New Options for Guest Cloning ----

Cole Robinson posted[1] a patch to enable virt-install to "build a guest 
around an existing disk image, skipping the OS install step." Cole also 
posted[2] a patch for virt-clone which allows for cloning from an XML 
file "rather than require the use of a guest defined on the current 
connection."

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00051.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00050.html

---- Obtaining Guest IP Address from the Host ----

Thomas Mackell inquired[1] about a way to obtain the IP address of a 
guest that was easier than logging into it and running ifconfig. Cole 
Robinson pointed out image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-mem[2] which is a 
collection of utilities for interrogating KVM guests. Tools included are 
virt-uname, virt-dmesg, virt-ps, and virt-ifconfig.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00036.html
    2. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-mem/

--- Fedora Virtualization List ---

This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list.

---- Fedora Virt Status Update ----

Mark McLoughlin posted two[1] [2] very detailed weekly status reports 
since the last FWN Virtualization beat. Each one is full of details on 
the latest bugs and developments in the field.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00077.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00078.html

---- Qemu Packaging and noarch BIOS Firmware ----

The process [1] of building BIOS firmwares to support architecturally 
diverse guests on architecturally diverse hosts is very involved and 
repetitive. Glauber Costa learned[2] of changes coming to Koji which 
could simplify the process by allowing for bundled BIOS images to be 
built as "noarch" RPMs. These would be readily available to hosts on any 
architecture in the repository. Save for some "second class citizens"[3] 
in the repo.

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00066.html
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00068.html
    3. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00072.html

--- Fedora Xen List ---

This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.

---- dom0 Kernel Experimentation Continues ----

Michael Young continued[1] to help others experiment with the nacent 
dom0 support in the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel and posted another 
RPM. There are still significant problems precluding its use for 
anything beyond testing.

    1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00031.html

--- Libvirt List ---

This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list.

---- Support for Snapshot Volumes ----

Nick Moffitt asked[1] "Is there any interface to libvirtd that allows it 
to create volumes that are snapshots of existing volumes?" Daniel P. 
Berrange pointed[2] out this feature was recently added to 
image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.6.0. "Basically when creating a 
storage volume, you just need to pass information about the backing 
storage volume. It'll thus create a volume which is a snapshot of this 
backing store."

    1. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00195.html
    2. http://libvirt.org/formatstorage.html#StorageVolBacking

---- netcf Network Interface Configuration Library ----

David Lutterkort has been working on the disconnect between 
image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt and host network interface 
configuration for some time. (See FWN#159 "Configuring Host Interfaces 
RFC") [1] "After talking with Dan Williams, who is working in 
image:Echo-package-16px.pngNetworkManager", it became[2] clear to David 
that solving this problem "is also useful for NM and would help them 
with handling system-wide interface configuration." David then began 
work on netcf[3]

Mark McLoughlin complimented[4] the work and updated the shared network 
interface feature page[5]. The goal of this feature in development is to 
"Enable guest virtual machines to share a physical network interface 
(NIC) with other guests and the host operating system. This allows 
guests to independently appear on the same network as the host machine."

    1. 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue159#Configuring_Host_Interfaces_RFC
    2. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00228.html
    3. http://git.et.redhat.com/?p=netcf.git;a=tree
    4. 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00229.html
    5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_Network_Interface

-- End FWN #164 --

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Fedora Ambassador, Indiana USA
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco




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