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Fedora Weekly News #169
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- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:22:56 -0400
Fedora Weekly News Issue 169
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 169 for the week ending March 29th,
This week in "What Happened Last Summer?" Developments conveys an
announcement on the Fedora intrusion of 2008. Announcements reels-off a
list of interesting "Upcoming Events". PlanetFedora selects choice blog
posts including Richard W.M. Jones' RPM-dependency visualizer. Marketing
reports that "Fedora has the Most New Features". Ambassadors reports
that "Fedora is on the move in Italy". QualityAssurance shares the
results of "Test Days" for the nouveau driver and other outstanding
work. Translation catches-up on problems with Persian l10n and more.
Artwork asks is it too late for "A Lion for Leonidas?". Security warns
of a "Firefox Emergency". Virtualization concludes that "KVM and QEMU
Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11" and on "Web Based libvirt Management"
and a comprehensive "Fedora Virtualization Status Report".
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FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 169
1.1.1 Fedora Board
1.1.2 Fedora 11
1.1.3 Qt 4.5.0
1.1.4 FUDCon Berlin 2009
1.1.5 Upcoming Events
1.2 Planet Fedora
1.3.1 Marketing Meeting Log for 2009-03-24
1.3.2 Fedora on Twitter and Identi.ca
1.3.3 Fedora has the Most New Features
1.4.1 Fedora is on the move in Italy
1.4.2 Got Ambassador News?
1.5.1 Test Days
1.5.2 Weekly meetings
1.5.3 Wiki changes
1.5.4 Bugzappers meeting schedule
1.5.5 Triage Days on the Wiki
1.6.1 What Happened Last Summer
1.6.2 Emacs Cabal Disables Xorg Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
1.6.3 ZFS-based Upgrades
1.6.4 Repoview Temporarily Bust in Fedora 10
1.6.5 LGPL Qt-4.5 in Fedora 10 and Fedora 9
1.7.1 FLP Meeting
1.7.2 FLP Admin Meeting
1.7.3 Anaconda File Ready for Translation
1.7.4 Release Notes Moved in the Repository
1.7.5 PackageKit 0.4.6 version for Fedora 11
1.7.6 New Members in FLP
1.8.1 Preparing for the Berlin FUDCon
1.8.2 A Lion for Leonidas?
1.9 Security Week
1.9.1 Firefox Emergency
1.10.1 Fedora Virtualization List
188.8.131.52 KVM and QEMU Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11
184.108.40.206 Fedora Virtualization Status Report
1.10.2 Fedora Xen List
220.127.116.11 Success with Experimental Fedora 10 pv_ops dom0
18.104.22.168 Yum Repository for Experimental Dom0 Kernels
1.10.3 Libvirt List
22.214.171.124 More Formal libvirt Release Scheduling
126.96.36.199 New Release perl-Sys-Virt 0.2.0
188.8.131.52 SCSI Host Pools Patch
184.108.40.206 API for Host Interface Configuration
220.127.116.11 Web Based libvirt Management
== Announcements ==
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project.
Contributing Writer: Max Spevack
=== Fedora Board ===
Our fearless leader reminded the community that the Fedora Board
will be "holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 7 April 2009, at
1800 UTC on IRC Freenode."
Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation.
Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This
channel is read/write for everyone.
Paul also mentioned a change in the procedure for the meeting. "We're
trying something new (albeit in a minor way) in this meeting. The
moderator will still be available to gather input from the
#fedora-board-public channel, but will voice people, one at a time, in
the queue in the #fedora-board-meeting channel."
=== Fedora 11 ===
Jesse Keating announced that the Beta composes are complete, and
that the freeze on Rawhide has been lifted.
Andreas Bierfert announced that opensync was being downgraded to
0.22, as discussed on fedora-devel-list. As a result, maintainers will
need to rebuild "all packages which depend on opensync in some way."
=== Qt 4.5.0 ===
Kevin Kofler informed the community that, "we are working on
providing Qt 4.5.0 as updates for Fedora 9 and 10." There are several
important pieces of information that anyone who maintains a Qt-4-based
package needs to know. Please read the full announcement.
=== FUDCon Berlin 2009 ===
Max Spevack reminded the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009,
including registration, lodging, and speaking opportunities.
=== Upcoming Events ===
March 31-April 2: Linux Solutions in Paris, France.
April 1-2: OpenExpo in Bern, Switzerland.
April 15: NYLUG in New York, New York, USA.
April 17-19: Summer Geek Camp 2 in Antipolo City, Phillipines.
April 18: BarCamp Rochester in Rochester, New York, USA.
April 19-22: Red Hat EMEA Partner Summit in Malta.
== Planet Fedora ==
In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.
Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin
=== General ===
Dave Malcolm developed, a command line app called show that allows
for access to various log files through an SQL-like interface. It
supports aggregates and can handle Apache access logs, /var/log/messages
and /var/log/secure and various others using backends from Augeas for
configuration files like /etc/passwd.
Paul W. Frields explained how to convert virtual disk images between
various formats using utilities from qemu.
Rakesh Pandit wrote a "Report for National Institute of Technology
Hamirpur Software Activity Workshop" describing an event where students
were trained in software development using Free and Open Source
Nicu Buculei announced that the Open Clipart Library has reached its
goal of 10,000 images.
Richard W.M. Jones posted a visualization of RPM dependencies by
size, as part of his quest to build a minimal Fedora installation. A
later followup noted that very different results occur depending on
how the dependencies are traversed (in this case, breadth-first
traversal versus depth-first). He then released a tool,
rpmdepsize to allow users to generate their own dependency
James Morris described some security subsystem changes going into
the 2.6.29 kernel.
Jef Spaleta continued writing about "the NSF workshop on software
sustainability for cyberinfrastructure" and the mismatch that often
occurs between the length of grant funding and expected software
lifetimes and lifecycles. Chitlesh Goorah followed-up with the
abstract of the Fedora Electronic Lab position paper from the workshop.
Chitlesh later posted some information on FEL's place in the open
source Electronic Design Automation (EDA) world.
Luis Villa wrote about "deliberative nirvana and software design
myopia". He cited the White House's Open For Questions site, built
using tools like Google Moderator and App Engine, allowing it to scale
on a technological level without any realistic limitations but with
results that may not perfectly reflect the United States due to
social/demographic limitations of the technology.
== Marketing ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Marketing Project.
Contributing Writer: Kam Salisbury
=== Marketing Meeting Log for 2009-03-24 ===
The meeting log of the 2009-03-24 Fedora Marketing Meeting was made
=== Fedora on Twitter and Identi.ca ===
Fedora on Twitter.com passed 500 followers and Identi.ca 50
=== Fedora has the Most New Features ===
In another example of Fedora leading the way, a comparison of the Fedora
11 and an upcoming similiar distribution's release shows that Fedora has
the lion's share of new features.
== Ambassadors ==
In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project.
Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero
=== Fedora is on the move in Italy ===
Luca Foppiano's recent blog item outlines developments in Italy.
While Luca mentions that Italy has not yet reached the numbers of the
French and German communities, the Italian community is growing. With
around 7 ambassadors and 10 to 15 regular IRC participants, the
community has put down firm roots in the country.
For 2009, Luca reports that some activities are in the works, like:
* One meeting each month, to keep in touch regularly, have
brainstorming, discussions and involving all interested people.
* Pages on fedora wiki to keep and track internal information like
events and inventory.
"I think we are on the right way," Luca writes. "Stay tuned"
=== Got Ambassador News? ===
Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be
submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd
be glad to put it in this weekly report.
== QualityAssurance ==
In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team.
Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson
=== Test Days ===
This week's was on the Noveau driverfor NVIDIA video cards, which
will become the default in Fedora 11. Thanks to an excellent turnout,
over 80 sets of results were reported, and several bug reports were
made: some of the issues have already been resolved. The developer
present was Ben Skeggs, and Adam Williamson, James Laska and Will Woods
were present for the QA team.
Next week again will see two test days. The first will be on the
radeon driver for ATI graphics cards, while the second will be on 
power management. Live CDs will be available for both test days so
you'll be able to test without a Rawhide installation. The Radeon test
day will be held on Wednesday (2009-03-01) and the Power Management test
day on Thursday (2009-03-02) in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC.
If you have a Radeon graphics card, please make sure to come along to
the first test day; if you have a laptop, please come to the second. If
you can't make it on the day, please do the tests and fill out your
results on the page another day.
=== Weekly meetings ===
The QA group weekly meeting was held on 2009-03-25. Will Woods
reported that the Fedora 11 beta release had slipped.
James Laska reported that packaging work on the Semantic extension for
Mediawiki was progressing, and one package had already passed review. He
also noted that he had created a test Mediawiki instance with the
extension enabled, but had not yet been able to do much testing. Adam
Williamson confirmed that he also had not had time to do much testing.
Adam Williamson reported that planning for the Radeon test day was still
in progress. He also reported that Bugzappers team review of Anaconda
bugs for the Fedora 11 beta release had been successfully completed.
Adam Williamson reported that the Xfce test day was fully planned, and
Kevin Fenzi reported that he had successfully generated some live CD
images for the test day. Adam asked if someone could make sure these
images would be available for download.
Will Woods reported that he had been testing upgrade scenarios for the
Fedora 11 beta release and had found several bugs in this area.
James Laska noted that most critical bugs for the beta release were
already known and being tracked, and re-testing was not necessary for
any known issues. A long discussion followed on the correct place and
format in which to note known issues. The group agreed that known issues
for the beta release should be noted within the beta release notes as
separate sub-headings, and a concerted effort should be made to make
sure that the release notes were referred to in all official,
semi-official and unofficial communications regarding the beta release.
Will Woods' suggestion that this was a job for the <marquee> tag was
The Bugzappers group weekly meeting was held on 2009-03-24. It was a
short meeting as several key group members were not able to attend.
Matej Cepl reported that he had consolidated his RHEL and Fedora triage
and signature scripts into a single Greasemonkey script. Other topics
were deferred to future meetings or the mailing list for lack of a
reasonable number of group members to make binding decisions.
The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-04-02 at 1600 UTC (note
reversion to previous meeting time) in #fedora-meeting, and the next
Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-04-01 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
=== Wiki changes ===
The group discussed Christopher Beland's new How to Triage draft, and
Chris made several revisions and improvements. Chris summarized
several remaining questions relating to the page, and Adam Williamson
and Edward Kirk provided feedback.
=== Bugzappers meeting schedule ===
Adam Williamson requested a final decision on re-scheduling the
Bugzappers group movement, but no final conclusion was yet reached.
=== Triage Days on the Wiki ===
Adam Williamson apologized for the delay, and announced  that a
Triage Day page was now available on the Wiki, explaining the existence
and function of the Bugzappers group's weekly Triage Day.
== Developments ==
In this section the people, personalities and debates on the
@fedora-devel mailing list are summarized.
Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley
=== What Happened Last Summer? ===
Paul W. Frields broke radio silence to provide a detailed explanation
of last August's (2008-08-12) security problem. Briefly, a Fedora
Project systems administrator used a pass-phraseless SSH key. This was
copied from the administrator's machine and used to gain access to
Fedora infrastructure. Subsequently trojaned versions of OpenSSH and rpm
were built and deployed on Fedora infrastructure. The investigation
concludes that these packages were detected and removed before any rpms
were built with them or distributed to Fedora users. The full, detailed
communication includes a time-line.
=== Emacs Cabal Disables Xorg Ctrl-Alt-Backspace ===
Much work has been done on the Fedora 11 release notes to advise
users of significant changes. A thread started by Gerry Reno to
question the disabling of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace as a key combination to
kill the X server shows that these beta release notes are an important
means to notify prospective users of new features of the operating
system. Gerry was among many contributors to the thread that preferred
to keep the traditional functionality enabled. This change was an
upstream Xorg decision apparently taken to prevent users from
accidentally killing their X servers. Although there had previously been
extensive discussion (reported in FWN#162) and a nice, hot flamewar
on the upstream lists the change seemed to take many by surprise.
This prompted accusations that "[...] big changes like this need to
be advertised extensively instead of just quietly slipped in."
Roland McGrath suggested ways in which xorg.conf could be changed
using a kickstart post-scriptlet but preferred that such choices would
be pushed into the users' "keyboard shortcut" preferences. Gerry
raised the issue of the use of the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination
being essential to virtual machine management.
Another dissatisfied user was Arthur Pemberton. He requested
discussion of why such large changes as disabling Ctrl-Alt-Backspace,
removing Xorg.conf in favor of auto-detection, and others had been made
without what he considered to be enough discussion. Response to this
line of questioning suggested variously that the change had been
made "secretly" upstream in order to appease an emacs-using cabal, and
that Fedora had adopted the changes solely because Ubuntu had done so.
This latter accusation was disputed by Matthew Garrett. The emacs
angle seems to come from the fact that the emacs key-combinations
"Ctrl-Alt-End" and "Ctrl-Alt-\" are, with certain keyboard layouts, a
danger to fumble-fingered users. Arthur pointed to an added
complication in a use case in which booting with the monitor powered off
requires restarting the X server.
Felix Miata mentioned that OpenSuSE's solution was to require that
the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace sequence be struck twice before it took effect.
This was also suggested by Gerry during a thread in which Matthew
Garrett and Matthias Clasen explained that the Terminate_Server symbol
could be bound to any desired key-binding through XKB maps.
Ahmed Kamal suggested: "To anyone wanting to kill X when it hangs,
why not login through a VC and `pkill X' .. Just like any process, why
do we have to have magic keys!" Similarly Adam Jackson challenged
the assertion that it would be possible to use the key combination to
deal with faulty drivers.
=== ZFS-based Upgrades ===
Neal Becker posted a link to an interesting way to use the
capabilities of the ZFS filesystem to take snapshots of the system and
provide a safe, stable way to upgrade. Seth Vidal seemed sanguine
that this would be relatively easy with a YUM-based system.
=== Repoview Temporarily Bust in Fedora 10 ===
After a report from Uwe Kiewel that he could not create a repoview for
Fedora 10 Everything Seth Vidal posted that there was a fix
available in rawhide but it had not got into Fedora 10 yet. Konstantin
Ryabitsev (Icon) built the updated packages and Josh Boyer posted
that they would be available very shortly.
=== LGPL Qt-4.5 in Fedora 10 and Fedora 9 ===
KevinKofler announced updates of Qt-4.5 for Fedora 10 and Fedora 9.
He detailed the advantages of this backwards-compatible update and
suggested that maintainers of Qt-4-based packages do some quick checks
to ensure that there would be no snags.
== Translation ==
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n)
Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee
=== FLP Meeting ===
The common meeting for the Fedora Localization Project team was held on
25th/26th March 2009. The discussion centered around general
around the new transifex interface for statistics and submissions.
it lacks the FLP logo and is also not the landing page for the project.
AnkitPatel from the FLP-Admin team informed that these issues can be
after the end of Fedora Infrastructure freeze period.
Other issues that were discussed were the non-availability of the
Anaconda file and problem related to leadership in the Persian
team. The meeting was chaired by NorikoMizumoto.
=== FLP Admin Meeting ===
The FLP Admin team met on 24th March 2009 to discuss about the new
transifex instance, publican/docs support for statistics generation on
transifex, feedback ticket filing FAQ, coordination with Fedora
Infrastructure team to iron out the current issues.
=== Anaconda File Ready for Translation ===
Ville-Pekka Vainio announced the availability of the updated Anaconda
.po files for translation. The files were held back due to a delay from
the Anaconda developers who were running additional tests .
=== Release Notes Moved in the Repository ===
The location of the translated .po files of Fedora Release notes were
recently moved without notification, within the git repository.
=== PackageKit 0.4.6 version for Fedora 11 ===
RichardHughes announced that the 0.4.6 version of PackageKit would be
part of Fedora 11 and translations for this version were to be submitted
by 29th March 2009. PackageKit 0.4.6 is scheduled for release on 30th
=== New Members in FLP ===
Hamid Reza Neyari (Persian), Hedda Peters (German), Sam Friedmann
(French), Sveinn Helgi Sverrisson (Icelandic), Imre Csuhai
(Hungarian) joined the Fedora Localization Project during the past
== Artwork ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
=== Preparing for the Berlin FUDCon ===
Max Spevack presented on @fedora-art a check list with items needed
by the organizational team for the upcoming FUDCon in Berlin: a T-shirt
design, a magazine ad, posters, banners and more "I'd love to use FUDCon
Berlin to really show off the coolness of the Fedora Art team, and to
provide our EMEA crew with some reusable resources for future FUDCons in
the region, as well as some stuff that we can use for the F11 release,
and then auction off or something :)"
=== A Lion for Leonidas? ===
Samuele Storari advanced a new concept for the Fedora 11 artwork, a
lion "So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name:
Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use
another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for
being a king and the subject is shouting:'The King is here!'" The
graphics were generally liked but considered a bit too late by Martin
Sourada and Máirín Duffy "We are *really* late in the schedule
right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to
go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and
work around that concept already".
== Security Week ==
In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in
Contributing Writer: JoshBressers
=== Firefox Emergency ===
On Friday, a new version of Firefox  was released. The number of
hours that went into this event are amazing to even consider. For most
of the week, there were various groups working non stop to make this
happen. Be sure to update your firefox, it's pretty important.
== Virtualization ==
In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list,
@fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora
Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley
=== Fedora Virtualization List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list.
==== KVM and QEMU Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11 ====
After missing the previous round (FWN #165) and some development
delay, the KVM and QEMU package merge feature of Fedora 11 has been
marked as accepted by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
"Currently, there is both a qemu package and kvm package. The KVM
package's source is a fork of the QEMU source, but KVM regularily
re-bases to the latest QEMU source and merging of KVM support into the
QEMU code base is actively under-way."
==== Fedora Virtualization Status Report ====
After a few weeks off, Mark McLoughlin reached back into the future and
produced an exhaustive status report covering all the developments in
fedora Virtualization for the last month. Grab a bowl of popcorn and dig
=== Fedora Xen List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.
==== Success with Experimental Fedora 10 pv_ops dom0 ====
Users are continuing to build experimental kernels with pv_ops dom0
support. Pasi Kärkkäinen was happy to report success getting a
"custom Xen pv_ops dom0 kernel working with virt-install and/or
virt-manager on Fedora 10".
"I was able to run the following on Fedora 10 32bit PAE pv_ops dom0:"
* CentOS 5.3 32bit PAE PV domU
* Fedora 10 32bit PAE PV domU (using virt-install and custom
kickstart to force PAE kernel installation to avoid the anaconda
Pasi was successful by using:
* pv_ops dom0 kernel (2.6.29-rc8 or newer) "Compile with
CONFIG_HIGHPTE=n since it seems to be broken still"
* libvirt 0.6.1 and related packages from Fedora 10 updates-testing
* xen 3.3.1-9 packages from rawhide/F11 rebuilt for F10
* LVM volumes for domU disks (tap:aio is not yet supported by pv_ops
==== Yum Repository for Experimental Dom0 Kernels ====
Since Koji removes scratch builds after some time, Michael Young
created a repository for the experimental Dom0 capable kernels
he's experimenting with.
=== Libvirt List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list.
==== More Formal libvirt Release Scheduling ====
After Daniel Veillard proposed a libvirt 0.6.2 release next week, Daniel
Berrange thought  the "release schedule has become a little too
variable in timeframe and quality in recent times[...]" (FWN #155)
* Monthly releases aiming for the 1st of the month.
* Any non-trivial new feature for release must be reviewed, approved
and committed at least 1 week before the release.
Daniel Berrange is also "working on an integration test suite, which
will enable us to run automated tests against individual hypervisor
drivers. This will help us detect regressions in hypervisor drivers, and
more importantly let us ensure that all drivers are implementing
consistent semantics for their APIs."
Daniel Veillard tended "to agree on the approximate rule of one
release every months [sic] but I would like to keep this flexible" and
offered this schedule for the next 2 releases:
commit feature freeze: Tuesday 31 Mar
expected release date: Friday 3 Apr
commit feature freeze: Friday 17 Apr
expected release date: Friday 24 Apr
==== New Release perl-Sys-Virt 0.2.0 ====
Daniel Berrange announced an update of the Perl binding for libvirt,
* Fix network create API, and UUID lookups
* Implement storage pool, storage vol, node device, security model,
domain events and event loop APIs
* Improve way constants are exposed to Perl layer
* Fix horrible memory leak in methods returning a hash
* Fix integer overflow in APIs using 64-bit ints (aka 'long long')
* Minimum required libvirt C library for building is 0.6.1
==== SCSI Host Pools Patch ====
David Allan has been working on a reworked SCSI host storage pool
patch for some time, and appears to be close to ironing out all the
==== API for Host Interface Configuration ====
The Shared Network Interface feature was deferred to Fedora 12 while
David Lutterkort continues to work on netcf (FWN #164).
Now Laine Stump has posted "a first attempt at the public API that
will hook up to libnetcf on the libvirtd side."
==== Web Based libvirt Management ====
Radek Hladik is developing "a simple web application in PHP to
monitor and control VMs using libvirt." The stateless nature of the web
presents efficiency problems when each action must call out to the virsh
command. Radik sought advice on picking from a list of approaches.
Daniel Berrange picked door number two, which is to create a
libvirt-aware Zend extension in C. "A few people have expressed interest
in this idea in the past, but unforatuntely I'm not aware of anyone
having written any code for this yet. We'd very much like to see a PHP
binding for libvirt developed & happy to give advice/support to anyone
Russell Haering mentioned a Django (python) WebApp he's working on,
called virtadmin. To bridge the stateless to stateful gap, the
"system consists of a python daemon used for actual libvirt interaction
and a separate django web interface that interacts with the daemon via
AMF over https."
Although more of an appliance, it is also worth mentioning oVirt.
"oVirt is a small host image that provides libvirt service and hosts
virtual machines and a web-based virtual machine management console."
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