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Re: F9 Name Proposal



On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:32 +0100, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2007 10:58 PM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora nicubunu ro> wrote:
> > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) .
> >
> > I absolutely hate to be "that guy" but... the name decision is not ours
> > (Art Team) to make and traditionally now is also too early for it.
> 
> Is it too early? I think there are proposed changes for the
> development process which would put the "naming" process earlier in
> part to get the art team time to have the option to build a theme
> associated with the codename.
> 
> Regardless of when it happens, there are established rules for the
> name game, which I assume people in this thread are not aware of.
> Names between releases must relate.  Release N+1 must be named such
> that releaser N+1 relates to N, such that releases N+1 and N-1 are not
> similarly related.  So we can for example just keep picking city names
> or flower names over and over again.
> 
> The rules for F9 as I understand them are:
> The relationship that connects Moonshine and Werewolf cannot be re-used.
> The F9 name and werewolf must share are "both are" relationship.
> The F9 name and moonshine must not share a "both are" relationship
> You also should provide an obvious next relationship that can be used
> to connect the name to F9 to F10
> 
> The "Unicorn" example I provided follows the name game rules. I stated
> the N+1 to N relationship explicitly.  Both a unicorn and a werewolf
> are mythical creatures whereas moonshine is not.
> I also hinted at the next relationship that can be used to move beyond
> unicorn.  Unicorn was the mascot for my high school, so for F10 you
> could move from unicorn to any high school mascot that was not a
> mystical creature. Though that's actually not a good out. A better out
> would be Tom Cruise movie co-stars (a unicorn was in the movie
> Legend).
> 
> Names like "galaxy" or "night bird" need to be given in the context of
> the "N+1 and  N  are a something,  but N+1 and N-1 are not a
> something" rule.  The naming isn't  random, but its constrained by how
> clever we are coming up with relationships between the names.
> 
> -jef
> 

I am aware of these rules, so I'll explicitly say what I meant with my
name suggestion(s) and also add one more:

Nosferatu / Dracula / Draculina / Vampire (whoever)
 * A mythical half-beast, like a werewolf
 * For F-10 (or F-X?) we could use one of the connections to vampires
via many films they were in...

And the promised one

Uroboros / Glaurung / Dragon (whoever)
 * Mythical creature
 * Can be succeeded by any of the heroes, characters, ... from films,
literature, games... (personally I'd follow with Beowulf)
 
 * Uroboros (though the word itself does not sound to me much nice) has
some good connection to Fedora itself, as it symbolises infinity and
unity, in words from wikipedia[1]:

   "It has been used to represent many things over the ages, but it most
    generally symbolizes ideas of cyclicality, unity, or infinity."
 
 * Glaurung is the first dragon ever born in Tolkien's mythology

Martin

References:
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros


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