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Re: Icon theme for ubuntu



GDM is already themed.
Look at %{_bindir}/gdmsetup.

Dnia 21-11-2007, śro o godzinie 18:08 +0100, David Nielsen pisze:
> On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 08:13 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 13:39 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > > I think it's not hard to create professional looking icon theme.
> > > Try Echo with Infinity theme - this is proffesional? I don't think so.
> > 
> > If it is not hard, why do you do it and come back when you have
> > something to show ?
> 
> yum install tango-icon-theme, there's something to show. 
> 
> Shall I start filing bugs on all the components in Fedora that currently
> does not accept an easy theme change such as rhgb, gdm, anaconda and so
> on (preferredly something like replacing the fedora-artwork package or a
> similar option). I believe that was the proposed solution we got from
> the art team the last time, yet no work has gone into enabling said
> choice of the user. A choice which will be needed since echo has poor
> accessibility - However this was claimed as not being a target (a
> complete understandable and acceptable design decision if it wasn't for
> the fact that the aim is to be our default iconset), despite the rest of
> the distro aiming for good defaults for handicapped people. Advancements
> such as PolicyKit are being integrate which will enable using a screen
> reader on applications which would normally not work, a specific goal on
> moral grounds as pointed out by davidz in his linux.conf.au 2007 talk
> "Gluing a desktop and a kernel together[1].
> 
> Why should our artwork go against such a goal, being handicapped myself
> and having worked extensively which people suffering from a wide range
> impairments I can honestly say this group of users have very little
> choice currently not to mention they are tied to proprietary platforms.
> 
> Fedora has a clear market opening if we want it, furthermore with laws
> being the way they are in most countries we cannot be used in government
> deployments unless we are accessible (Section 508 in the US e.g.). 
> 
> I have mainly been a pain about this because I think it's a moral
> obligation to ensure that everyone has the option to use Fedora and I
> believe the default should strive for a mix of good looks and good
> accessibility - Tango has that and it has good adoption upstream
> (OpenOffice, GIMP, Jokosher.. many projects default to using Tango
> icons). 
> 
> The only way to offer Echo, Tango and everything else which is on the
> table would be to easily allow theme changes for the entire system, not
> just session icons and select a sensible default - this work has not
> been done, seeing as the artwork team wants Echo and originally offered
> this solution I assumed they would be filing the bugs - this however
> does not seem to be the case.
> 
> This is not about my personal opinion on the look of Echo, it's about
> being able to offer the choice of freedom to a group of people who
> currently has none and expanding our potential userbase.
> 
> Untill you have seen the change of life quality the ability to
> communicate and work does to a person who is paralysed from the neck
> down, I doubt anyone will truly understand. I happen to have seen this,
> an accessible computer gave this person the option to work 10-15 hours a
> week - the change in his life cannot be expressed. I would like to see
> us offer that without the hefty pricetag and exclusion from common
> applications they currently have. I would like this kind of profound
> change to be part of what we help give to the world. I think it starts
> with addressing the most widespread impairments.. eye sight (degraded
> eye sight, color blindness, etc.). Much of that can be done with good
> defaults, some requires the option of having e.g. high contrast icons
> (colorblindness can now been aided by compiz plugins - I'm unsure of the
> current state of tie in to the accessibility settings).
> 
> Additionally an option to change the system unified look would make
> branding for special deployment as well as spins much nicer.
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> David Nielsen
> 
> [1]
> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/220.ogg
> (about 24 mins into the video)
> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/220.pdf
> (as well as page 49 in the slideshow pdf file)
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