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Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons
>> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we
>> probably won't be changing it any time soon.
> While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the 
> work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), 
> don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed?
> If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just 
> drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog 
> prettier?
> There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking.
> To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty 
> is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a 
> temporary solution.
> And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the 
> problem solved properly.

Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a
prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it.
I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-)

This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start
talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe
we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10.
However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply
advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been
that way before.

I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to
get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability
factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those
requirements for the future while looking prettier.

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