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Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog



2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields <stickster gmail com>:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  > Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  >>
>  >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons
>  >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we
>  >> probably won't be changing it any time soon.
>  >
>  > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the
>  > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that),
>  > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed?
>  > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just
>  > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog
>  > prettier?
>  > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking.
>  >
>  > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty
>  > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a
>  > temporary solution.
>  > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the
>  > problem solved properly.
>
>
> Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a
>  prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it.
>  I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-)
>
>  This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start
>  talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe
>  we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10.
>  However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply
>  advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been
>  that way before.
>
>  I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to
>  get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability
>  factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those
>  requirements for the future while looking prettier.
>
Now that's going better.
But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora
does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it
so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global
conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes?

And if you read the reply's here everyone wants to have it on by
default, even you said that, so.. what's the point in ignoring that?
Don't tell me that making it themed can "confuse" users (something
like that was said when i requested it in the F8 development cycle).

Btw i saw the lock dialog now and it's height is a bit overdone for
just a lock dialog if you ask me. I will make a mockup of what i like
later today.


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