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Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog



On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:55 +0200, Mark wrote:
> 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields <stickster gmail com>:
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >  > Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >  >>
> >  >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons
> >  >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we
> >  >> probably won't be changing it any time soon.
> >  >
> >  > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the
> >  > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that),
> >  > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed?
> >  > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just
> >  > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog
> >  > prettier?
> >  > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking.
> >  >
> >  > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty
> >  > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a
> >  > temporary solution.
> >  > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the
> >  > problem solved properly.
> >
> >
> > Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a
> >  prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it.
> >  I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-)
> >
> >  This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start
> >  talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe
> >  we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10.
> >  However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply
> >  advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been
> >  that way before.
> >
> >  I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to
> >  get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability
> >  factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those
> >  requirements for the future while looking prettier.
> >
> Now that's going better.
> But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora
> does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it
> so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global
> conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes?


Maybe you don't realize that _we_ were the ones who added the code for
themed lock dialogs in the first place ? We tried it, and consider it a
bit of a failed experiment. If it causes the art team heartburn, we
should probably just rip it out again...



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