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Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 35



Hii,

this is Abdul Samad Ghanchi, I am from Pakistan, and interested in ART and got command on PHOTOSHOP, Hope i contribute my best for FEDORA...

Regards
gHanchi2oOo

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Becoming a contributor (Alec Moon)
  2. Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10? (Martin Sourada)
  3. Re: Fedora Remix mark (Paul W. Frields)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:49:11 -0500
From: "Alec Moon" <moonman36 gmail com>
Subject: Re: Becoming a contributor
To: fedora-art-list redhat com
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Actually, because of the incompleteness of the list, I wasn't completely
sure which projects were still open. I was interested in the Fedora USB
distrobution Kit, though, as it looked like nobody has been working on it.

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: Fedora 10 promo video (draft) (Nicu Buculei)
>   2. F10 artwork questions (Bill Nottingham)
>   3. Re: Becoming a contributor (Nicu Buculei)
>   4. Re: F10 artwork questions (Nicu Buculei)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:50:39 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora nicubunu ro>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 10 promo video (draft)
> To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <48F5D90F 4010706 nicubunu ro>
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> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:17 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >> I also think it's very hard to make a "short" list with features to
> outline
> >
> > We have made such a list in Marketing already:
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-September/msg00183.html
>
> I know about that list... it was my indirect way of pointing that a new
> desktop theme is a *minor* feature (even if it is the most talked part
> in reviews).
>
> > Hmm.  Do we require simply FOSS-made materials, or specifically
> > Fedora-made materials?
>
> Well, if we don't allow software from rpmfusion then we are SOL, no
> videos beyond screen captures made with Istanbul or recorded from webcam
> with Cheese.
>
> Effectively not even "I am Fedora" -
> http://s6.video2.blip.tv/0570000043336/Mairin-IAmFedora740.ogg
>
> --
> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:19:07 -0400
> From: Bill Nottingham <notting redhat com>
> Subject: F10 artwork questions
> To: fedora-art-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <20081015151907 GH1773 nostromo devel redhat com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Some general questions:
>
> When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking...
> (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier
> in future releases?)
>
> The poster on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar -
> it doesn't appear to be valid English, certainly not in the header.
> And I'm not sure what "an all branded new way of technology" is.
>
> Finally, not to start too much controversy - is there a reason the
> *final* theme voting is Art-only?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:32 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora nicubunu ro>
> Subject: Re: Becoming a contributor
> To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <48F60AF4 8000107 nicubunu ro>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Alec Moon wrote:
> > I have had some experience working with Photoshop, starting at verson 6,
> > all the way to CS 3. I'm also experienced with GIMP. I like to do
> > projects with a clear goal. I like abstract art more than realism. I'm
> > very open to any sort of project.
>
> Hi Alec,
>
> Do you find something interesting in our open requests queue?
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService
>
> Note: our preferred applications are GIMP and Inkscape and a definite
> must is file formats which can be opened with FOSS tools (GIMP and
> Inkscape).
>
> --
> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:38:53 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora nicubunu ro>
> Subject: Re: F10 artwork questions
> To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <48F60E8D 5030006 nicubunu ro>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Some general questions:
> >
> > When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking...
> > (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier
> > in future releases?)
>
> As I understand, the final Solar images received OK and are ready for
> packaging. I am not familiar with the process of going from wiki to
> package.
>
> > The poster on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar -
> > it doesn't appear to be valid English, certainly not in the header.
> > And I'm not sure what "an all branded new way of technology" is.
>
> The post is not part of the release and should not be a blocker for
> packaging (and I agree with you, its wording can be improved - we don't
> have a better text from marketing).
>
> > Finally, not to start too much controversy - is there a reason the
> > *final* theme voting is Art-only?
>
> It may not be the best link but
> http://mihmo.livejournal.com/62031.html?thread=331343#t331343
>
> We were not supposed to have a vote but decide the final theme by
> consensus, only that for this release a consensus was not reached so we
> had to use an internal vote.
>
> --
> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
>
>
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That, my friends, is why Harley-Davidson motorcycles taste bad.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:07:09 +0200
From: Martin Sourada <martin sourada gmail com>
Subject: Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list redhat com>
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First of all, thanks for the review, it pretty much outlines the issues
I feel uneasy about as well. First, most of these issues are caused by
SVG icon being scaled down (sometimes for a reason unknown to me and
sometimes because of missing appropriate size variant). So I skip these,
because we need to just finish other size and adjust them a little to
keep them in sync with other icons. I seriously doubt we'll fix those in
time for F10.

Now, for the rest.

The delete icon - yes, it looks different and I proposed we change it to
something other. The discussion was postponed for after F10 release.

The close icon on tabs - yes, it is chopped off and I don't understand
why. It has correct size and the icon itself isn't chopped off, but in
*some* applications it looks this way :-/

The door icon - the doors are slightly opened, perhaps too little, and
behind there is a black space. The two pixel width outline is because
both door and the door-hole has it's own outline. I agree, it might need
improvement.

System->Administration - yep, it probably needs rework to better fit
with the style.

Shut Down - dunno if you remember, but at the time it was being created
there were a lot of submission and for some reason we chose this on. But
even after a half a year (IIRC) of seeing it everyday it looks a bit
weird me.

Network - yep, an old style one. We need to use the new styled monitors
for these...

Palm - agreed

Volume - I accepted it back when we were creating it, but it seems to me
it actually uses different perspective from other icons...

Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice = pain, while firefox being the best...
Basically the toolbar icons are pretty much themable in firefox,
thunderbird needs theme, openoffice needs theme. Not a decent citizens.
Seeing that our mail client of choice is Evolution though, which works
good with Echo, I'd guess Thuderbird hasn't the highest priority (and it
does not even fit with the F9 default icon theme). For openoffice we
would probably need to symlink/copy the echo icons into echo icon theme
for openoffice... I don't know, how they handle it.

I'd very much like to hear Luya's opinion, but I don't feel like
supporting Echo for F10 as default much longer...

Martin
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:50:32 +0000
From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster gmail com>
Subject: Re: Fedora Remix mark
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On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 15:40 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:54 +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >> This is the page where I collected your contributions to a design.  The
> >> time's come for me to refer the design candidates to the Board for
> >> approval.
> >
> > Yay art opinions!
> >
> > So, I strongly dislike what is done to the R of Remix in "13".  Maybe my
> > eyes suck, but it just looks like something went wrong when drawing the
> > R.
> >
> > Overall I think I prefer the rounded 9, although I can't tell much
> > difference between it and all the choices from Jay and Nicu, except for
> > the (mis)spelling of "remix", and well, COLORS!
> >
> > I'd prefer something like 9, with remix spelled correctly, and as many
> > color options as possible.
>
> I don't suppose we could just defer to the Fedora Art team to make a
> decision, since we have set them up to be the authoritative voice on
> precisely these kinds of matters?
>
> I'd rather see Mo/Nicu/et al making the call than Jesse.  Not that I don't
> love Jesse.  ;)

I'm OK with that call.  I think the rounded banner definitely works best
in everyone's opinion as being more thematically related to the font
choices.  So Artwork team, what do you say?

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