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Re: F11 Art Schedule
- From: Máirín Duffy <mairin linuxgrrl com>
- To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list redhat com>
- Subject: Re: F11 Art Schedule
- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Thank you thank you for the email -
----- Original Message ----
> From: John Poelstra <poelstra redhat com>
> As a casual reader of the list I know some things are still in
> flux and have changed and in some ways that is expected and good. It seems that
> because the wallpaper was in beta you received feedback in time to change
> course. Maybe we should build a feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?
I think maybe we should add several tasks on the schedule for explicitly blogging / otherwise announce (maybe via Fedora weekly news, any other ideas?) the current status of the artwork so it's known more widely than this list next time around.
I supported changing to the new design even though it has affected the schedule. I wonder how we should handle this in the future - it has affected the schedule negatively. We really need high-quality work like Samuele's work and I'm quite grateful for it, but I do not want to make a past-the-deadline-bend-the-rules thing a habit. o_O
Jon McCann had some good ideas about doing more outreach to artists/photographers in the future and maybe doing a contest to try to get more artwork flowing in that he had shared with me a few weeks back. I think this might be a good new approach to try for F12.
> We've learned in past releases that it helps to keep track of how things go (in
> reality) compared to the estimated schedule so that the estimated schedule for
> the next release is more realistic and achievable.
> With that in mind, looking at the splash screen tasks listed in the link below I
> thought it would be a good idea to record what their completion dates were ore
> when you estimate they will be complete:
> (task numbers 10 to 21)
Here's what I know, and I hope Samuele will keep us appraised of his status and plans as well. If we don't hear from him by Thursday, I will take this Friday (10 April) to try finish up everything on the list that needs finishing and I'll try to do it on the list and in IRC as much as possible to keep the commnunication open. If anybody has time on Friday to jump in and help out, by all means, let's do it. (And if there's no plymouth splash by Thursday morning I'll take some time on Thursday to mock that up for Charlie, hopefully that's enough time before he has to leave for his conference, let me know if not Charlie!)
IMAGE LICENSE CONCERNS
First, I want to point out our source image license issues. I am not 100% confident that we're clear here because I'm not sure every image used is referenced and I am not sure about the attribution requirements of the authors involved, but here's my understanding so far:
1) Spray paint brushes:
Fedora Legal cleared these as Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 so they should be OK.
2) Rust Texture:
Luca cleared these with the author, see email here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00192.html The author explicitly mentioned he did not require attribution.
3) Lion photo:
CC Attribution so shoudl be okay
I have two more questions about this topic:
1) Do we know how tambako and spoongraphics require that they be attributed to we can properly attribute them? I am not confident a mention to their works on our wiki would be sufficient. Perhaps a mention in the wallpaper package spec or in the XML file that stores the metadata about the image for display in the GNOME background dialog/capplet? How should we attribute these authors?
2) Are there any other sources here that aren't being referenced and that we need to clear? I admittedly have not cracked open the source files yet, and I'll be pretty disappointed to find additional graphics that have not been referenced. There is a different lion image in the anaconda graphics. Where did it come from?
TASK LIST STATUS
(John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)
1. Wallpaper Design
- We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
- We will need this iterated out into the various standard, 4:3, and widescreen formats. Dual-screen would be nice too.
2. Plymouth Splash - Charlie is waiting on Samuele for a design for this it appears?
3. GNOME splash - we have these designs and I will happily adapt them to fit with the lion: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/
4. KDE splash - same as #3 above
5. full screen splash for syslinux - nothing yet
6. grub splash - nothing yet (not sure if this is on the task list)
7. gnome screensaver lock dialog - nothing yet
8. anaconda square splash - Samuele put some mocks together (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept) but as we agreed a week ago, these are a bit too busy and still need to be simplified: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00015.html
9. firstboot vertical header - Samuele put one together that looks great (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept)
10. kdm - nothing
11. wallpaper extras - I do not think this is on your task list John but I think we need to add it. I want to try to revive the wallpaper project Nicu started so we can ship some nice extras wallpapers so the default wallpaper isn't the only thing we do. I was wondering if anyone has time to help me out with this? Or is it too late right now to do something like this?
> It is also important to note that we are targeting the completion of final
> artwork and packaging a little less than two weeks from now on 2009-04-16 so
> that it can all be in the Preview Release and have two weeks to shake out
> anything that needs final fixing before GA.
Thank you for this reminder and for helping keep us on track. It is really, really, really helpful.
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