[Fwd: Re: Gnome Icons, Gnome/KDE Menus need improvement]

[Bryan Clark]

I made a bug over the weekend to remind myself to fix the HIG on this.  

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144284

The F.D.O spec seems to suggest that Name is purely the proper name of
the application without the description of functionality included.  We
should align on this issue.  My recommendation is to format the Name as
"[Proper Name] [Description of Functionality]" and GenericName as
"[Description of Functionality]".  When two applications exist with the
same "[Description of Functionality]" then the Name is used instead.

I can see the possibility of expecting the "[Proper Name] [Description
of Functionality]" format to be generated automatically via the way the
F.D.O. spec is now, however the code isn't there to support this and I
suspect issues (especially in regards to translation) will arise if we
try to generate the names automatically.

~ Bryan

On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 10:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:

> We do need to fix this HIG vs. desktop entry spec issue. Historically
> what we've done for Red Hat is just put what we want in Name and ignore
> GenericName.
> 
> Havoc
> 
> 
> Email message/mailbox attachment, "Forwarded message - Re: Gnome
> Icons, Gnome/KDE Menus need improvement"
> On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 10:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> 
> > What are your thoughts on this
> > (response to bugzilla re: changing menu entries)
> > 
> > Kaffeine Maintainer (Livna.org):
> > 
> > ------- Additional Comment #1 From Ville Skyttä 2004-06-13 21:12 --
> > 
> > > I am not quite comfortable changing the menu entry because it is implementation
> > specific how the actual shown label is constructed.  Moreover, we use
> > freedesktop.org .desktop files to provide the menu entries, and so the 
> > canonical
> > specification to follow is the desktop entry specification, which says 
> > Name is
> > the app_name, and I'd say GenericName would correspond to app_function.
> > http://freedesktop.org/Standards/desktop-entry-spec/0.9.4/ar01s04.html
> > 
> > Until the ambiguities (and AFAICS even small conflicts) between the 
> > GNOME HIG
> > and desktop entry specifications are clarified, and there is a clear 
> > documented
> > way how to represent this information in .desktop files in Fedora stuff, 
> > I do
> > not want to go into the business of changing things.  What would make 
> > sense to
> > me would be to construct the menu entry label like "Name GenericName" 
> > from the
> > .desktop entry fields.  That would result in a mess if Name already 
> > contained
> > app_function.
> > 
> > ===============================================================================
> > 


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