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Re: low-hanging fruit



On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 00:31 -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> On 8/15/07, Matthias Clasen <mclasen redhat com> wrote:
>         As discussed in the meeting, here is my personal
>         "laundry list" of low-hanging fruit. Note that some of
>         these are being worked on for F8 anyway.
>         
>         - enable nss-mdns by default
>         - clean up emblems in nautilus 
>         - remove obsolete applets
>         - reconsider default panel config (launchers)
>         - unlock keyring on login
> 
> This should be included in gnome 2.20 with the new gnome-keyring.  
> It includes a pam module to do this.  If it doesn't then I can finish
> hacking 
> pam_keyring to do what we want.
>  
> 
>         - use xdg-user-dirs consistently 
>         - disable root login
> 
> I don't know why.  I think the goal is ot make security seamless
> enough 
> that people don't feel the "need" to log in as root.
> 
> 
>         - get rid of xfs 
>         - get rid of pam_console
> 
> In the long run YES!  This is probably not happening for Fedora 8.
> Should we instead use the UGROUPS property to allow users to
> have administrative gui privileges in the short term.  Could win 
> back some popularity among reviewers.  Yes I know how awful 
> that sounds, but it is a fact of life.
>  
> 
>         - NM by default
> 
> Would love to see this.  Don't know if we can make it

We're trying :)

>         - PA by default
>         - get rid of a bunch of services that we don't need on a
>           live cd, like nfs/rpc/autofs
>         - have a close look at the system-config tools we install
>         - cleaned up artwork packaging
>         
>         And here are some larger things: 
>         
>         - rethink installation and updates (see hughsie's
>           recent work)
>         - desktop background stuff:
>            slideshows, channels, per-workspace
>         - no lvm/raid in livecd installer
>         - good xrandr 1.2 support
>         - no root user
>         - replace init system
> 
> I don't know if the init system needs to be replaced or just
> rethought.
> I have been hacking on this on and off for the past 3-4 days and my
> conclusion is that the perception of the boot process is more
> important 
> than what actually happens.  The first 17 seconds of boot is tied to 
> hardware and display initialization.  From there everything leads up
> to what
> "needs" to be running when a user logs in.  I am working on a proper 
> write up
>  
>         - new graphical boot
> 
> Since we have to start X eventually I don't see the big problem with
> rhgb. 
> I am trying to finish up my work getting rhgb to start in the gdm init
> scripts.
> This allows rhgb and gdm to share an initial xserver and give a
> smoother
> boot process.
> 
> 
>         - composited desktop by default
> 
> Would love to see this.  For my own personal use I have started
> hacking
> more gnomish features into xfwm4.  Basically a new config gui and
> gconf
> functionality for storing settings.  I know most people could care
> less but 
> I think it will give a good 2d composited desktop option based on some
> solid window manager work by the XFCE guys.
> 
> 
>         - rethink user account handling:
>            kiosk mode (?), guest accounts
> 
> 
> I think our problem has become looking for a magic bullet solution for
> everything,
> and neglecting good ideas waiting on that idea.  NetworkManager is the
> future of 
> networking for linux but we have been neglecting other solutions for
> years waiting
> on it.  Composited desktops, init-system, and graphical booting are
> going to be
> the new ones.  Perhaps it is time to start planning in smaller steps.
> It is great to 
> have the grand vision but we tend to fall behind waiting for that to
> happen.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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