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Re: gnome-wm and "compiz ... glib gconf" vs "compiz ... ccp"



2008/10/20 Axel Thimm <Axel Thimm atrpms net>:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:14:15AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>> Axel Thimm wrote:
>> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 05:46:25PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 22:08 +0300, Axel Thimm wrote:
>> >>> some of the compiz plugins will not work properly unless compiz is
>> >>> started with the ccp plugin instead of glib/gconf.
>> >> Sounds like those plugins are broken and need fixing ?
>> >
>> > Honestly I have no idea, other than seeing that people on the web as
>> > well as most compiz/fusion tools seem to suggest doing so.
>> >
>> > If it's a bug then compiz & compiz-fusion are obviouly aware about it,
>> > since they provide workaround in their tools (and with compiz &
>> > compiz-fusion I mean core devs & community). And if they provide two
>> > workarounds, then either the bug is currently too involved to be fixed
>> > in a timely manner or it is not a bug but intended behaviour.
>> >
>> > In either case it would be nice to have Fedora work properly out of
>> > the box. If it's a bug and does get fixed one day we can go back to
>> > glib/gconf instead of ccp. Is there any reason otherwise not to just
>> > patch gnome-wm to use ccp now?
>> >
>> I think that user settings will get left behind each time you switch
>> between configuration backends.  That's a big negative.
>
> Are you sure? ccp does default to store stuff under gconf and the
> settings look OK. It looks like this is intended to be shortcircuited
> one day, but not yet now, as many plugins work properly through ccp
> and not glib/gconf.
>
>> A bugzilla report against the affected plugins will get some people
>> looking at whether it's a bug in the plugin or not.
>
> People seem to be aware, there are official workarounds and ccp seems
> to have a migration policy in place. But until all plugins properly
> work directly with gconf we should not break it and use the ccp
> plugin.
>
> Anyway, it's just an observation about the user experience and how to
> improve it with a little quirk. Just give a couple plugins a try and
> see how they misbehave if you don't use ccp.

err... what?
the plugins do not care about the used configuration plugin at all ...
if they do its a bug that should be fixed.
which plugins are you talking about?


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