From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 06:02:51 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:32:51 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? Message-ID: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Any plans to do this? I saw a user request for gnome-format and directed him to nautilus-gdu instead but it has not been built for Fedora 10. Rahul From praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com Fri May 1 06:35:13 2009 From: praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com (praveen kumar...life is not easy...) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:05:13 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> i think it is not nautilus-gdu ,it is nautilus -gdm which is used to samba to share the data to window from linux. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 06:47:30 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:17:30 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> On 05/01/2009 12:05 PM, praveen kumar...life is not easy... wrote: > > > i think it is not nautilus-gdu ,it is nautilus -gdm which is used to > samba to share the data to window from linux. Nautilus-gdu is a new extension for formatting USB keys. You are probably confusing it with something else. Rahul From praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com Fri May 1 07:12:13 2009 From: praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com (praveen kumar...life is not easy...) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:42:13 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7c04d07d0905010012g489754a3s81c8ffc663fe8e07@mail.gmail.com> if you want to format a usb drive then you can use 'Gparted' ,you can install this by "yum install gparted" then go to application->system tools->gparted then you can format or resize the usb keys. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 07:22:47 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:52:47 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <7c04d07d0905010012g489754a3s81c8ffc663fe8e07@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0905010012g489754a3s81c8ffc663fe8e07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FAA347.2040603@fedoraproject.org> On 05/01/2009 12:42 PM, praveen kumar...life is not easy... wrote: > > if you want to format a usb drive then you can use 'Gparted' ,you can > install this by "yum install gparted" then go to application->system > tools->gparted then you can format or resize the usb keys. Yes, I am aware. The extension is just a better integrated solution. Rahul From praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com Fri May 1 07:23:41 2009 From: praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com (praveen kumar...life is not easy...) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:53:41 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <49FAA347.2040603@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0905010012g489754a3s81c8ffc663fe8e07@mail.gmail.com> <49FAA347.2040603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7c04d07d0905010023w3dc09762v1fa58084e9576b14@mail.gmail.com> The nautilus is build for fedora 11 and its rpm are also available for fedora 11 not for fedora 10 . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 07:34:45 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:04:45 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <7c04d07d0905010023w3dc09762v1fa58084e9576b14@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0904302335r2471bd9cq9a4f6fb0c2f44a67@mail.gmail.com> <49FA9B02.4070209@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0905010012g489754a3s81c8ffc663fe8e07@mail.gmail.com> <49FAA347.2040603@fedoraproject.org> <7c04d07d0905010023w3dc09762v1fa58084e9576b14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FAA615.3070305@fedoraproject.org> On 05/01/2009 12:53 PM, praveen kumar...life is not easy... wrote: > > The nautilus is build for fedora 11 and its rpm are also available for > fedora 11 not for fedora 10 . ... which explains my first post. We have come full circle. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 12:59:21 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 18:29:21 +0530 Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins Message-ID: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Just a quick heads up. I am now building gnote 0.3.0 for Fedora 11 and Fedora 10. There has been a number of important change my last mail about gnote to this list. It now includes several plugins, ability to spell check notes and most importantly, a GNOME applet. I believe the only major feature left that was discussed here is the ability to import Tomboy notes on first start which is the next item on the developer's list along with sync abilities. Gnote is on a weekly release schedule now (every wed) so I am sure we will be getting good updates soon. I will keep you folks informed as we move forward. Rahul From mclasen at redhat.com Fri May 1 14:08:53 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:08:53 -0400 Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins In-Reply-To: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Just a quick heads up. I am now building gnote 0.3.0 for Fedora 11 and > Fedora 10. There has been a number of important change my last mail > about gnote to this list. It now includes several plugins, ability to > spell check notes and most importantly, a GNOME applet. > > I believe the only major feature left that was discussed here is the > ability to import Tomboy notes on first start which is the next item on > the developer's list along with sync abilities. Gnote is on a weekly > release schedule now (every wed) so I am sure we will be getting good > updates soon. I will keep you folks informed as we move forward. > We should probably look at switching out tomboy with gnote in the f12 panel configuration. Not sure what to do about upgrades, though. Obsoleting tomboy wouldn't be right... From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 14:09:50 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins In-Reply-To: <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 May 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just a quick heads up. I am now building gnote 0.3.0 for Fedora 11 and >> Fedora 10. There has been a number of important change my last mail >> about gnote to this list. It now includes several plugins, ability to >> spell check notes and most importantly, a GNOME applet. >> >> I believe the only major feature left that was discussed here is the >> ability to import Tomboy notes on first start which is the next item on >> the developer's list along with sync abilities. Gnote is on a weekly >> release schedule now (every wed) so I am sure we will be getting good >> updates soon. I will keep you folks informed as we move forward. >> > > We should probably look at switching out tomboy with gnote in the f12 > panel configuration. Not sure what to do about upgrades, though. > Obsoleting tomboy wouldn't be right... then don't obsolete it. For new installs people get gnote. For people who have tomboy and like it they can keep it. If someone upgrades and wishes to find a non-mono note app - that's what the search functions in pk/yum/yumex are all for. -sv From mclasen at redhat.com Fri May 1 14:12:05 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:12:05 -0400 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1241187125.2380.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:32 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Any plans to do this? I saw a user request for gnome-format and directed > him to nautilus-gdu instead but it has not been built for Fedora 10. Not sure that is going to work. It probably requires new versions of DK-disks and gvfs. Tomas can probably answer that better, but he's out today. I don't think there is anything wrong with packaging gnome-format though, if people are interested in it. Choice, and all that... From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 1 14:20:05 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:50:05 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <1241187125.2380.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <1241187125.2380.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49FB0515.9070502@fedoraproject.org> On 05/01/2009 07:42 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:32 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Any plans to do this? I saw a user request for gnome-format and directed >> him to nautilus-gdu instead but it has not been built for Fedora 10. > > Not sure that is going to work. It probably requires new versions of > DK-disks and gvfs. Tomas can probably answer that better, but he's out > today. > > I don't think there is anything wrong with packaging gnome-format > though, if people are interested in it. Choice, and all that... Ok. I will look into packaging gnome-format later today. Rahul From mcepl at redhat.com Mon May 4 16:42:06 2009 From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:42:06 +0200 Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 2009-05-01, 14:09 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: > then don't obsolete it. For new installs people get gnote. For > people who have tomboy and like it they can keep it. If someone > upgrades and wishes to find a non-mono note app - that's what > the search functions in pk/yum/yumex are all for. And given the brokeness of our package selection mechanism, it would get precedence over tomboy because it has shorter name. Yay! Finally once it selects the correct package! Mat?j P.S.: Sorry, Seth, cannot resist. From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Mon May 4 16:45:48 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins In-Reply-To: References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 May 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2009-05-01, 14:09 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: >> then don't obsolete it. For new installs people get gnote. For >> people who have tomboy and like it they can keep it. If someone >> upgrades and wishes to find a non-mono note app - that's what >> the search functions in pk/yum/yumex are all for. > > And given the brokeness of our package selection mechanism, it > would get precedence over tomboy because it has shorter name. > Yay! Finally once it selects the correct package! > > Mat?j > > P.S.: Sorry, Seth, cannot resist. you haven't read the compare_providers routine in a long time, then. If EVERYTHING else is equal then shortest-name is used. But there is A LOT of other things used before that is what it falls down to.. but thanks for not taking the time to see if things have changed. -sv From mcepl at redhat.com Tue May 5 20:33:36 2009 From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:33:36 +0200 Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> On 2009-05-04, 16:45 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: > but thanks for not taking the time to see if things have > changed. I haven't read the source code, true, but I lost /var parition last week (BTRFS is fun!) and had to rebuild /var/lib/rpm. During that I got exim installed again, so I don't think that much has changed (I prefer postfix, and I would understand if I got some sane default -- e.g., sendmail -- not random package). Mat?j From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Tue May 5 20:46:23 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins In-Reply-To: <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 May 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2009-05-04, 16:45 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: >> but thanks for not taking the time to see if things have >> changed. > > I haven't read the source code, true, but I lost /var parition > last week (BTRFS is fun!) and had to rebuild /var/lib/rpm. During > that I got exim installed again, so I don't think that much has > changed (I prefer postfix, and I would understand if I got some > sane default -- e.g., sendmail -- not random package). > I'd need to know a lot more about how you 'rebuilt' things and what the outputs were to tell you anything here. But if a pkg requires mta and has nothing else to show us then sure, shortest name will win. Would you rather it be unpredictable? -sv From mcepl at redhat.com Tue May 5 21:17:52 2009 From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:17:52 +0200 Subject: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> Message-ID: <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> On 2009-05-05, 20:46 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: > I'd need to know a lot more about how you 'rebuilt' things and > what the outputs were to tell you anything here. Something in the lines of rpm -qf /usr/lib64/*/* |awk \ '/nevlastn? ??dn? bal??ek/ {print $2}'\ |xargs repoquery -qf|sort -u|xargs yum install -y run on different directories (various lib* and *bin directories). ('nevlastn? ??dn? bal??ek' is 'not owned by any package' in Czech). Which I think means something totally unpredictable, I guess. > But if a pkg requires mta and has nothing else to show us then sure, > shortest name will win. > > Would you rather it be unpredictable? No, I would prefer FESCO (or whomever) approved policy stating that e.g. /usr/sbin/sendmail or mta-daemon means (in this or any other order): 1) sendmail 2) postfix 3) exim 4) huge group of pidgeons, 5) small group of pidgeons, 6) a pidgeon 7) bottle in the sea 8) Lotus Notes 9) M$ Exchange 10) qmail or something of that sort. Mat?j From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Tue May 5 22:04:31 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sort order for multiple providers [WAS: Re: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins] In-Reply-To: <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 May 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2009-05-05, 20:46 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: >> I'd need to know a lot more about how you 'rebuilt' things and >> what the outputs were to tell you anything here. > > Something in the lines of > > rpm -qf /usr/lib64/*/* |awk \ > '/nevlastn? ??dn? bal??ek/ {print $2}'\ > |xargs repoquery -qf|sort -u|xargs yum install -y > > run on different directories (various lib* and *bin directories). > ('nevlastn? ??dn? bal??ek' is 'not owned by any package' in > Czech). > > Which I think means something totally unpredictable, I guess. > >> But if a pkg requires mta and has nothing else to show us then sure, >> shortest name will win. >> >> Would you rather it be unpredictable? > > No, I would prefer FESCO (or whomever) approved policy stating > that e.g. /usr/sbin/sendmail or mta-daemon means (in this or any > other order): > > 1) sendmail > 2) postfix > 3) exim > 4) huge group of pidgeons, > 5) small group of pidgeons, > 6) a pidgeon > 7) bottle in the sea > 8) Lotus Notes > 9) M$ Exchange > 10) qmail > > or something of that sort. as I said on irc right before you dropped off: Problems: 1. you need to determine that order and get everyone to stop arguing over it enough to ratify it 2. you need special info in the repodata to make that happen 3. you need to deal with conflicts in the repodata between repos -sv From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue May 5 22:16:40 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:46:40 +0530 Subject: nautilus-gdu for Fedora 10? In-Reply-To: <49FB0515.9070502@fedoraproject.org> References: <49FA908B.9070605@fedoraproject.org> <1241187125.2380.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FB0515.9070502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A00BAC8.1070504@fedoraproject.org> On 05/01/2009 07:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/01/2009 07:42 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:32 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Any plans to do this? I saw a user request for gnome-format and directed >>> him to nautilus-gdu instead but it has not been built for Fedora 10. >> Not sure that is going to work. It probably requires new versions of >> DK-disks and gvfs. Tomas can probably answer that better, but he's out >> today. >> >> I don't think there is anything wrong with packaging gnome-format >> though, if people are interested in it. Choice, and all that... > > Ok. I will look into packaging gnome-format later today. Submitted at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498906 Rahul From a.badger at gmail.com Wed May 6 01:01:20 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:01:20 -0700 Subject: Sort order for multiple providers [WAS: Re: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins] In-Reply-To: References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> Message-ID: <4A00E160.4030602@gmail.com> Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 May 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: >> >> No, I would prefer FESCO (or whomever) approved policy stating >> that e.g. /usr/sbin/sendmail or mta-daemon means (in this or any >> other order): >> >> 1) sendmail >> 2) postfix >> 3) exim [...] > as I said on irc right before you dropped off: > > Problems: > 1. you need to determine that order and get everyone to stop arguing > over it enough to ratify it > 2. you need special info in the repodata to make that happen > 3. you need to deal with conflicts in the repodata between repos > > 4. 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Which is certainly the best. Oh well. ? Mat?j From jkeating at redhat.com Wed May 6 16:35:18 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:35:18 -0700 Subject: Sort order for multiple providers [WAS: Re: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins] In-Reply-To: <7sm8d6-221.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <7sm8d6-221.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> Message-ID: <1241627718.3030.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 17:27 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > Yes, and nobody wants to do the work, so we are in the same place > where MTA is decided by the length of the package name. Which is > certainly the best. That's hardly fair. When the user doesn't express any preference for an MTA, either explicitly, or through the use of the "base" group in comps, then yes, yum resorts to the best providers algorithm to satisfy the generic mta requirement. With no other hints, all things wind up being equal amongst our MTA providers and yum does finally have to resort to shortest name. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Wed May 6 16:44:45 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sort order for multiple providers [WAS: Re: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins] In-Reply-To: <1241627718.3030.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <7sm8d6-221.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <1241627718.3030.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 17:27 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: >> Yes, and nobody wants to do the work, so we are in the same place >> where MTA is decided by the length of the package name. Which is >> certainly the best. > > That's hardly fair. When the user doesn't express any preference for an > MTA, either explicitly, or through the use of the "base" group in comps, > then yes, yum resorts to the best providers algorithm to satisfy the > generic mta requirement. With no other hints, all things wind up being > equal amongst our MTA providers and yum does finally have to resort to > shortest name. > and just so we're clear: Shortest-name is not a yum-ism - it comes from anaconda, from looooooooooooong ago in a galaxy far away. I duplicated it in yum for consistency. -sv From mcepl at redhat.com Thu May 7 14:52:21 2009 From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:52:21 +0200 Subject: Sort order for multiple providers [WAS: Re: Gnote 0.3.0 - includes applet and more plugins] References: <49FAF229.6090605@fedoraproject.org> <1241186933.2380.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <0ek6d6-gsf.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <01n6d6-rcg.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <7sm8d6-221.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <1241627718.3030.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <569bd6-mfl.ln1@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> On 2009-05-06, 16:44 GMT, Seth Vidal wrote: > and just so we're clear: Shortest-name is not a yum-ism - it > comes from anaconda, from looooooooooooong ago in a galaxy far > away. I duplicated it in yum for consistency. And just so we are completely clear: my frustration notwithstanding, I don't think it is your fault or primarily technological problem -- I am quite sure that you can fix whatever algorithm is decided upon in no time. Mat?j From johannbg at hi.is Wed May 13 22:57:22 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:57:22 +0000 Subject: Desktop background Idea for F12 feature.. Message-ID: <4A0B5052.1070301@hi.is> There was pointed out to the art list [1] MS plans for personalization [2]. It would be good to get some developers input on idea I had. Is it possible to add an feature to "gnome-appearance-properties" in "backgrounds" A) Browse online "gallery(s)" ( Each distro and upstream DE can have it's own gallery to present to its end users ) B) Preview selected image(s) to the end user C) Set that image as the end user background E) Add the ability so that each user can have his own background ( User A has background image A, User B background image B etc ) D) Save the background in user home folder By having an online background browser it save the bandwith footprint and disk space usage and the work related to package "selected" background images. Thoughts/input [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-May/msg00135.html [2] http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/02/a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx -- Viking-Ice One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross You do the math! From mclasen at redhat.com Thu May 14 01:00:46 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:00:46 -0400 Subject: PolicyKit changes in F12 Message-ID: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Just a heads-up: We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0, eventually) in F12 soon. The new version simplifies the API and will require PolicyKit-using application to be ported. For more information, have a look at the feature page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne It also has pointers to api docs and a (terse) porting guide. We already have a collection of patches for quite a few PolicyKit-using apps, so the transitions should be relatively painless. Matthias From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu May 14 10:39:58 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:39:58 +0300 Subject: Desktop background Idea for F12 feature.. In-Reply-To: <4A0B5052.1070301@hi.is> References: <4A0B5052.1070301@hi.is> Message-ID: <4A0BF4FE.7040002@nicubunu.ro> On 05/14/2009 01:57 AM, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > > Is it possible to add an feature to "gnome-appearance-properties" in > "backgrounds" > > A) Browse online "gallery(s)" > ( Each distro and upstream DE can have it's own gallery to present to > its end users ) I don't understand this, start a web browser and navigate the websites? Why not use a RSS feed? > B) Preview selected image(s) to the end user > C) Set that image as the end user background This is pretty much like setting the background from Firefox, which we can already do. > E) Add the ability so that each user can have his own background > ( User A has background image A, User B background image B etc ) > D) Save the background in user home folder Isn't this how backgrounds work by default? You have to take extra steps to sett it for more than one user. > By having an online background browser it save the bandwith footprint > and disk space > usage and the work related to package "selected" background images. For this we would also need a suitable on-line gallery -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu May 14 14:29:41 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:59:41 +0530 Subject: Anyone packaging gnome-shell? Message-ID: <4A0C2AD5.6010803@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Would be good to get it packaged to encourage people to test and provide feedback, even if it is a custom repo Rahul From mclasen at redhat.com Thu May 14 16:31:51 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:31:51 -0400 Subject: Anyone packaging gnome-shell? In-Reply-To: <4A0C2AD5.6010803@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A0C2AD5.6010803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1242318711.3964.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Would be good to get it packaged to encourage people to test and provide > feedback, even if it is a custom repo It will be packaged when it is ready for that, I assume. There hasn't even been a 0.0 release yet, and parallel installability issues with metacity are actively being worked on atm... From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu May 14 23:39:48 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:09:48 +0530 Subject: Anyone packaging gnome-shell? In-Reply-To: <1242318711.3964.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A0C2AD5.6010803@fedoraproject.org> <1242318711.3964.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A0CABC4.6080404@fedoraproject.org> On 05/14/2009 10:01 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Would be good to get it packaged to encourage people to test and provide >> feedback, even if it is a custom repo > > It will be packaged when it is ready for that, I assume. There hasn't > even been a 0.0 release yet, and parallel installability issues with > metacity are actively being worked on atm... I am aware of the work on parallel installability. Been tracking the recent bug reports filed on that. I could still work on packaging the build/run-time requirements such as gir-repository, gjs and others. Right? Rahul From walters at verbum.org Fri May 15 18:26:36 2009 From: walters at verbum.org (Colin Walters) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:26:36 -0400 Subject: Anyone packaging gnome-shell? In-Reply-To: <4A0CABC4.6080404@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A0C2AD5.6010803@fedoraproject.org> <1242318711.3964.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A0CABC4.6080404@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/14/2009 10:01 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Would be good to get it packaged to encourage people to test and provide >>> feedback, even if it is a custom repo >> >> It will be packaged when it is ready for that, I assume. There hasn't >> even been a 0.0 release yet, and parallel installability issues with >> metacity are actively being worked on atm... > > I am aware of the work on parallel installability. Been tracking the > recent bug reports filed on that. I could still work on packaging the > build/run-time requirements such as gir-repository, gjs and others. Right? Definitely. There's a review for gir-repository I think. We need to do upstream releases mainly. From praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com Sat May 16 05:48:55 2009 From: praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com (praveen kumar...life is not easy...) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:18:55 +0530 Subject: sound recorder problem Message-ID: <7c04d07d0905152248x56e65c9cpd961a1d63ffc2328@mail.gmail.com> hi, i have sony vaio VGN-CR32G laptop i installed fedora 10 everything working fine but my sound-recorder not working and i need it for my work.can enybody tell me how its work fine.It is big problem for me please help me out. thanx in advance... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From veillard at redhat.com Sat May 16 07:56:14 2009 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:56:14 +0200 Subject: PolicyKit changes in F12 In-Reply-To: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:00:46PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Just a heads-up: > > We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0, > eventually) in F12 soon. The new version simplifies the API and will > require PolicyKit-using application to be ported. For more information, > have a look at the feature page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne > > It also has pointers to api docs and a (terse) porting guide. We already > have a collection of patches for quite a few PolicyKit-using apps, so > the transitions should be relatively painless. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/tree/docs/PORTING-GUIDE doesn't uindicate how to discriminate at compile time which version we are compiling against. Please indictate in the porting doc how to detect the installed version in configure. That's the bare minimum when you're changing APIs in that way. We obviously need libvirt to handle older and newer versions ! Also what does ? No kit_* OOM handling in the new library means ? Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ daniel at veillard.com | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ http://veillard.com/ | virtualization library http://libvirt.org/ From hughsient at gmail.com Sun May 17 08:14:03 2009 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:14:03 +0100 Subject: PolicyKit changes in F12 In-Reply-To: <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> References: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> Message-ID: <15e53e180905170114h2cfdb70q1727160a2cb75a9b@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Daniel Veillard wrote: > ?? No kit_* OOM handling in the new library > means ? The old kit_* functions used to handle OOM (out of memory conditions) and report back the correct error. The new library is more GLib like, and doesn't handle OOM very well at all. It's likely you didn't care about OOM before, so this change won't affect you. Richard. From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Sun May 17 14:50:41 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:20:41 +0530 Subject: sound recorder problem In-Reply-To: <7c04d07d0905152248x56e65c9cpd961a1d63ffc2328@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c04d07d0905152248x56e65c9cpd961a1d63ffc2328@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78323d480905170750q667dbbc9q6ead225b6768ab6d@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:18 AM, praveen kumar...life is not easy... wrote: > hi, > ???? i have sony vaio VGN-CR32G laptop i installed fedora 10 everything > working fine but my sound-recorder not working and i need it for my work.can > enybody tell me how its work fine.It is big problem for me please help me > out. Post your problem in the Fedora user list. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com From davidz at redhat.com Sun May 17 15:24:29 2009 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:24:29 -0400 Subject: PolicyKit changes in F12 In-Reply-To: <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> References: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242573869.4508.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 09:56 +0200, Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:00:46PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Just a heads-up: > > > > We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0, > > eventually) in F12 soon. The new version simplifies the API and will > > require PolicyKit-using application to be ported. For more information, > > have a look at the feature page: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne > > > > It also has pointers to api docs and a (terse) porting guide. We already > > have a collection of patches for quite a few PolicyKit-using apps, so > > the transitions should be relatively painless. > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/tree/docs/PORTING-GUIDE > > doesn't uindicate how to discriminate at compile time which version > we are compiling against. Please indictate in the porting doc how to > detect the installed version in configure. That's the bare minimum > when you're changing APIs in that way. We obviously need libvirt to > handle older and newer versions ! For testing availability, PolicyKit 0.9.x provides polkit.pc, the new version provides polkit-gobject-1.pc that you can use to test for. > Also what does > ? No kit_* OOM handling in the new library > means ? The client side library now uses GObject and the policy there is to abort() on OOM. If you don't like this, you can use either the D-Bus interface of the PolicyKit daemon or call out to a helper program (not yet written, but it's simple) to check the authorization. Note that the model in the new PolicyKit release is a lot simpler - you now only need PolicyKit support in the actual privileged mechanism that needs to check for authorization. E.g. the client (virt-manager in this case) does not really need to know anything about PolicyKit - the authentication dialogs are popped up automatically if the mechanism passes ALLOW_USER_INTERACTION when checking whether the client calling into your mechanism is authorized for some action. So, for the libvirt daemon, where I believe you do care about handling OOM, the easiest thing is probably to just use the helper program to check for authorizations. Just easier all around and less foreign code polluting your process. Anyway, I'll make sure there are sufficient docs to make this transition as simple as possible. David From praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com Sun May 17 15:53:30 2009 From: praveenrocking2008 at gmail.com (praveen kumar...life is not easy...) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:23:30 +0530 Subject: sound recorder problem In-Reply-To: <78323d480905170750q667dbbc9q6ead225b6768ab6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c04d07d0905152248x56e65c9cpd961a1d63ffc2328@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480905170750q667dbbc9q6ead225b6768ab6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c04d07d0905170853i469178b2x1469635bb1f56aa6@mail.gmail.com> Thax for reply . On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Mani A wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:18 AM, praveen kumar...life is not easy... > wrote: > > hi, > > i have sony vaio VGN-CR32G laptop i installed fedora 10 everything > > working fine but my sound-recorder not working and i need it for my > work.can > > enybody tell me how its work fine.It is big problem for me please help me > > out. > > Post your problem in the Fedora user list. > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS > http://amani.topcities.com > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidz at redhat.com Mon May 18 12:57:07 2009 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:57:07 -0400 Subject: PolicyKit changes in F12 In-Reply-To: <20090518095747.GE29795@redhat.com> References: <1242262846.9432.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090516075614.GU1589@redhat.com> <15e53e180905170114h2cfdb70q1727160a2cb75a9b@mail.gmail.com> <20090518095747.GE29795@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242651427.4508.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 10:57 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 09:14:03AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Daniel Veillard wrote: > > > ? No kit_* OOM handling in the new library > > > means ? > > > > The old kit_* functions used to handle OOM (out of memory conditions) > > and report back the correct error. The new library is more GLib like, > > and doesn't handle OOM very well at all. It's likely you didn't care > > about OOM before, so this change won't affect you. > > Well there are two ends to this. The client app side (eg virt-manager) > we don't care about OOM, since we're using GTK and that just aborts all > the time. For the service end, eg libvirtd, we do care about OOM handling > and we test for it, so this change is an unfortunate regression :-( No, there is no regression here. As I tried to explain in the reply to Veillard: 1. In libvirtd, simply check for authorization by speaking to the polkitd-1 using either the D-Bus API (via e.g. libdbus-1 which handles OOM) or a through helper. 2. virt-manager will not have to know _anything_ about PolicyKit And if either polkitd-1 or the helper aborts() due to OOM, then you will get a D-Bus error back (or if using a helper, WIFEXITED(status) != 0) and you can check the authorization again - this works because the bus daemon (which handles OOM) will then reactivate polkitd-1. David From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 29 11:13:24 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:13:24 +0200 Subject: welcome to fedora Message-ID: <64b14b300905290413m222c25b1v4ab68cff9481d75b@mail.gmail.com> http://images.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_linux_mint_7_gloria/15.jpg I saw this and thought that it would also be a nice idea to have in fedora, like a welcome screen "Wellcome to Fedora" or something similar... What are your thoughts on this? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic