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Re: Cooperative Bug Isolation Project

On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 12:21, seth vidal wrote:
> > Hmmm Red Hat is f*k'd either way. Maybe it should just get out of the
> > business of Open Source.. it seems like too much work to be useful.
> > 
> It seems like they want out of the business of dealing with anyone who
> works on open source software who doesn't work for red hat.
> They release open source software, but not-so-interested in playing with
> the other kids.

I think this is mostly a problem with any formalized 'organization'.
Lets just say that a long time ago, Red Hat east and Red Hat west would
say the same things you say above.. The reality was that both had
deadlines, social politics, and other items that made it easier for
something to get done if you got 10 seconds of face time than if you
sent an email. 

I have seen the same things at Academic institutions where getting the
time/effort of someone in your Astro department is always easier than
getting it from Biology. After a while, everyone in Astro knows that
Biology is a bunch of lazy losers because you can never get them to do
something you need.

It is also a personality problem of most people that the perceived
amount of time to communicate that something has come up is longer than
the actual time to do so. EG it seems easier to try and finish the 100
lines of code that the guy down the hall really needs for his work to be
done, than to tell the 20 people who arent inside the building and
coming by the cubicle every 10 minutes that you are going to be late or
their features have to be dropped. 

So in the end, people outside of Red Hat feel shitted on, the people
inside of Red Hat dont understand why people are always picking on them,
and eventually some psycology doctorate gets another paper on the
insanity of mankind.

> -sv
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