PROPOSAL: Core size reduction "bug day"
Michael Tiemann
tiemann at redhat.com
Mon Aug 2 14:29:46 UTC 2004
This is consistent with the strawman I proposed, but there is still a
valid reason for Extras to exist: it represents the maximal convex set
of consistent components. Your "components" terminology is just what I
was calling an arbitrary named collection.
M
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 01:30, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jul 23, 2004, David Nielsen <dnielsen at breakmygentoo.net> wrote:
>
> > As everyone probably knows a few days ago a suggestion was brought up
> > that we start moving none essential stuff like KDE, XFce and a lot of
> > the other duplication into Extras in order to reduce the size of Core.
>
> Personally, I think this Core/Extras thing is a mistake. Pushing
> packages to Extras won't make them any less of a maintenance burden,
> and the inability to download a set of CDs and do a full install at
> the time Core is released renders them bandwidth-expensive (no
> bittorrent for them) or unusable (need for broadband).
>
>
> I'd rather go for Core/Components.
>
> Core would be close enough to a minimal install; maybe with the
> addition of X for rhgb, firstboot and system-config-packages.
> Everything else would be component CDs, that the installer would be
> able to read from and install along with the Core, and that the user
> could choose whether to download and have available for installation.
>
> So we'd have a component for Gnome, a component for KDE, for OOo, for
> development tools, for server packages, etc. Components would be
> files containing a filesystem image, a tarball, whatever, containing
> the packages, plus package meta-information. One could download such
> components and burn them to CDs however they like. The installer
> would be able to look for such packages in any of the existing
> install methods, and offer to install packages in them.
>
> The nice thing with this arrangement is that components would have
> names that people could easily choose whether to download, and they
> could burn them into CDs however they like. The downside is that the
> installer gets more complex, and it may have to go through all
> available media twice; once before the package selections, once for
> the actual installation.
>
> --
> Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
> Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
> Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
>
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