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Re: Fedora Core 3 wishes

Breaking stuff hasn't stopped FC from making good technical decisions in
the past, if we continue to support OSS even through emulation we aren't
encouraging actually fixing stuff to use ALSA. I'm sure that base can be
fixed for 100% pure ALSA, and especially if we slim that sucker down.

4kb kernel stacks in FC2 broke 3rd party modules for the kernel, no big
deal it was a good technical move and nvidia already fixed their driver,
I'm sure others will follow shortly.

I appricate your concerns though
- David

On ons, 2004-07-14 at 10:25 -0700, Per Bjornsson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 07:59, David Nielsen wrote:
> > I'll just add a few I forgot.
> > 
> > 100% ALSA, I really hope we can move 100% to ALSA, I know it will be
> > painful (I take it some drivers aren't in ALSA yet, I haven't checked
> > though). But it would seem that having both ALSA and OSS support causes
> > the volume control to display two mixers for my emu10k1 card, that's
> > just bad style. ALSA is set to replace OSS fully at some point in the
> > near future anyways, now is as good a time as any to reduce complexity
> > and dump OSS.
> Last I saw, the OSS modules are not even built in the Fedora kernels -
> Fedora is already 100% ALSA AFAIK! What looks like "OSS" is the OSS
> compatibility mode that ALSA has. Dumping that would be a really bad
> idea(TM) since there are still a lot of applications that expect to be
> able to dump out audio the OSS way, this shouldn't go away for several
> more years I'd say. It seems that the volume control needs to get a bit
> smarter about what it displays; I don't know if there's any useful way
> to figure out that the two mixers presented by ALSA (the ALSA-native and
> the emulated OSS ones) are really connected to the same hardware. If it
> isn't possible perhaps something needs to be added to ALSA to make it
> possible to fgure this out. In fact, something seriously needs to be
> done about the volume control, it seems to display zillions of useless
> controls...
> /Per
> -- 
> Per Bjornsson <perbj stanford edu>
> Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University

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