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Re: Definition of Open Source [was Re: pine: UW permission to distribute]

On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 10:55, Warren Togami wrote:
> Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
> > 
> >>fedora.us Extras received special permission from the upstream Firefox 
> >>team that allows us to use the "official binary only Firefox trademark 
> >>icon" in our firefox package.  As long as fedora.us Extras distributes 
> >>the binary of firefox, we may use that icon, but anybody rebuilding and 
> >>redistributing the package technically should toggle a switch that 
> >>disables that trademarked icon.
> > 
> > 
> > Now you tell us. Is this in COPYING? Such deals should be made explicit
> > to the user to avoid inadvertent violations.
> > 
> Not our problem.  Firefox team's responsibility to enforce their own 
> trademark.  I believe COPYING only states the copyright licensing 
> rights, which as you stated is different from trademark rules.
> I suppose as a courtesy we should add a %doc TRADEMARK file that 
> explains the rules, and it should be commented in the .spec file.  While 
> we are probably not obligated to do so, it wouldn't hurt to add it to 
> the next revision of firefox.

It's only that files like these tend to get overlooked. Additionally,
you could also do something like this in the spec file:

%define fedora_buildsys %(if [ "$(hostname -f | grep '\.fedora\.us')" ];
then echo 1; else echo 0; fi)
%if %fedora_buildsys
SourceXY: firefox-tm-icon.png
%if %fedora_buildsys
# Replace non-TMed icon with TMed one
cp -f %{SOURCEXY} [...]

This would pretty much ensure that nobody _accidentally_ violates the
trademark. It's good to cover our own asses, but if we can cover those
of our users, it's even better.

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