I think Red Hat went out on a limb and went ahead and told everyone what was going to happen with changing to Fedora and letting us in on how this thing will work in general.
--- BEGIN IRC LOG --- <rh_pr> We are announcing Red Hat Project! A community-based distribution! <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat. <rh_dev> rh_pr: Uh... I'm not ready. * rh_pr is away: promoting rhel <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what do we do? <rh_dev> oss_crowd: I'm not sure. <rh_legal> rh_dev: don't do anything until I say it's ok. <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what can we do to help with Red Hat Project? <rh_dev> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things. <oss_crowd> rh_dev: didn't we always do that? <rh_sales> hey, all, if you really want a stable system, don't use fedora project. It will eat your brane. Buy RHEL instead. <rh_dev> rh_sales: stfu --- rh_pr removes voice from rh_sales <fedora_us> hey, all, check out our neat community-driven system for red hat development <oss_crowd> fedora_us: ooooh! <rh_pr> fedora_us: I like your name --- fedora_rh joined the channel <rh_legal> much better <rh_pr> We are announcing Fedora Project! A community-driven distribution! <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat! * fedora_rh waves <fedora_us> I'm not dead yet. <fedora_rh> fedora_us: don't confuse things. <fedora_us> fedora_rh: does this mean we're merging? <fedora_rh> fedora_us: maybe <rh_legal> fedora_rh: don't do anything until I say it's ok. --- fedora_us joined #limbo <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, what can we do to help? <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things. <oss_crowd> sigh... didn't we always do that? <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: I know, let's all go in the circle and say our names. * oss_crowd goes in the circle and says their names. This lasts several months. <fedora_rh> So, there will be the following features in the next release of Fedora Core. <oss_crowd> Uh... Hold on. Who gets to decide? <rh_sales> We do. That stuff will be neato for RHEL-4. <oss_crowd> MMkay, then. When do _we_ get to suggest things? <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: feel free to talk among yourselves. * oss_crowd talks among themselves about new features. <fedora_rh> btw, feature X will be disabled in the release. * oss_crowd glares at fedora_rh <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: nice of you to tell us while we were sitting here talking. <rh_dev> oss_crowd: sorry, it's just not happening. <oss_crowd> rh_dev: when do we get to decide what's happening? <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Dunno, I'll ask rh_legal <rh_legal> rh_dev: ugh, /msg me <rh_sales> rh_dev: let's not do anything rash here. * fedora_us gets tired of sitting in #limbo <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: I want to see more of the "community" part of the whole "community-based" thing <oss_crowd> rh_dev: how about at least a publicly accessible CVS/SVN tree? <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Yeah, that would be cool. <oss_crowd> rh_dev: finally, some movement. When is that going to be up? * rh_dev is away: talking to rh_legal * oss_crowd tries to occupy themselves and do things like fedoranews and fedorapeople. <oss_crowd> Uh... ping? <fedora_uh> oss_crowd: what's up? <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: We're feeling kinda useless. What exactly is our role, again? <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: well, it would be really helpful if you could test some things and file the bugs. <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: ugh. We ALWAYS did that. * oss_crowd begins to wonder what exactly is the purpose of fedora_rh <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: it's the open-development, proving-grounds for new technology component of Red Hat, as opposed to RHEL. <rh_sales> Told ya it'll eat your brane. --- rh_pr kicks rh_sales from the channel (you're a dolt) <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, let me get this straight. Effectively, you want us to download the packages you release, test things, file bugs, and submit patches. <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: Sure, why not? <oss_crowd> ...but when it comes to things like features, direction of the project, and which software to include in the distribution, it's the decision of Red Hat? * fedora_rh is away: I AM RH <fedora_us> I'm still not dead. <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: How is that different from how things were before the whole "publicly-supported distribution" thing? <oss_crowd> rh_dev: where is that long-promised public CVS/SVN repo? <rh_dev> dunno, talk to fedora_rh <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: look, such things don't happen in a week, ok? <oss_crowd> IT'S BEEN A YEAR! --- rh_sales joined the channel <rh_sales> EAT YOUR BRAAAAAANE. <oss_crowd> /mode +b rh_sales --- You're not ops in here. <oss_crowd> figures --- END IRC LOG ---
Cheers, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml
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