fc5 goals

Rudolf Kastl che666 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 29 13:24:00 UTC 2005


2005/11/29, Michael A. Peters <mpeters at mac.com>:
> On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 23:44 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le lundi 28 novembre 2005 à 14:15 -0800, Jesse Keating a écrit :
> >
> > > The question is why are these pieces of software in Fedora CORE vs
> > > Fedora EXTRAS.  I don't think anybody is complaining that the software
> > > is a part of the Fedora Project itself, just where they should land.
> > > Core or Extras.
> >
> > Actually I for example don't use KDE, and don't care if it's in core or
> > extras.
> >
> > What I do care about is Gnome depending on arts.
>
> Unless it has changed - the only reason Gnome depends upon arts is one
> single gstreamer plugin.
>
> I filed an RFE to have it split into a separate package awhile ago (I
> think pre FC3) and was told it wasn't worth it - even though without
> that plugin, I wouldn't need either arts or qt (both of which I never
> use)

whats the bugzilla id? this sounds like "definitely worth it" to me.

>
> >
> > I'd rather people spent more time untangling this kind of stupid
> > cross-dependencies than arguing what needs to be made second-class
> > citizen.
>
> Modularization hopefully will fix that - if it is applied to things like
> gstreamer plugins (which is where the arts is pulled in)
>
> Some other apps (ie mplayer in livna) also want it - but only because
> they are generic onesizefitsall builds, due to a lack of a proper plugin
> architecture (like gstreamer provides)
>
> If you really want the qt/arts cross dependency from gnome removed -
> file a bug with gstreamer-plugins.
>
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