Fedora's intended target audience?

[Rahul]

Hans de Goede wrote:
> 
> Rahul wrote:
>> Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been following the AIGLX repository discussion from the sideline.
>>> And I'm a bit shocked by what I'm reading there. There seems to be
>>> strong support for releasing Xorg 7.1 as an update for FC-5 even though
>>> that will break both NVidea and Ati binary drivers. For the records all
>>> my computers have a radeon 9200 running OSS drivers.
>> Kernel updates have been breaking non-free drivers all the time. There
>> are a number of other changes that broke other third party packages. I
>> dont quite understand why there is no much shock on potential of Xorg
>> updates breaking such proprietary drivers.
>>
> 
> Yes,
> 
> They do which is bad enough from an end user POv. But which aslo is
> fixable, usually by booting the old kernel, wait for a day or two that
> other repo todo the work and tada magicly fixed. 

Doesnt work that way if a fix is unavailable, there is noone working on 
it, for several different packages where noone is interested or which do 
not allow repackaging in repositories. We arent catering well to those 
user bases which use these non-free drivers and we are not going to do 
it ever. Others can workaround it and probably will continue doing that 
but there are going to be limitations. There is nothing new here.


Not quite perfect, but
> close. NVidea doesn't have drivers which will work with 7.1 planned for
> a month and Ati probably will be even slower. Also one cannot just
> reboot into that older kernel, so there is a HUGE difference here.

One can however ignore the update or if they driver is packaged 
properly, it will simply revert to the open drivers.

> Anyways I explicitly asked not to discuss this in this thread this
> belongs in a seperate thread.
> 

Your whole discussion is tied to the argument that since we are 
potentially breaking non-free drivers, noone would use Fedora. I can't 
see how we can have the discussion now without considering the premise. 
Anyway, I hope the objectives page 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives) answers you on your question 
regarding target audience. Its fluid but I dont think we need to 
restrict our definitions too much.

Rahul