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Re: util-linux missing from build root



On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 19:27 +0200, Stepan Kasal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:13:04PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > >  We would have to add a few small utilities which, though not
> > > standardized by POSIX, are widely supposed (fgrep, egrep, tar, cpio).
> > One detail: egrep is dead, deprecated and supposed not to be used
> > anymore ... for years (You might seen it on autoconf@)
> 
> sure, I know.  Yet I don't think we can remove it from the buildroot.
> The consequence would be that many backages would happily build, but
> misconfigured.  Hard to hunt for that.
> 
> What might make sense, is placing a bomb instead of [fe]grep and then
> rebuilding.  For each package which nukes, we'd notify upstream.
> But is it worth the effort?
Well, IMO, you hardly can avoid starting the effort, otherwise you will
never be able to get rid of deprecated "standard tools".

> I think we should accept the fact that these non--standard commands
> will stay available for very long...  Backward compatibility...
> And relying on the fact that everyone provides backward
> compatibility...  :-)
I think, it would be best to split out egrep/fgrep into separate
packages, say "grep-deprecated" or "grep-dontuse" or similar.

Ralf




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