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RE: Fedora 7 media sets



> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-devel-list-bounces redhat com [mailto:fedora-devel-list-
> bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Katz
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:21 AM
> To: fedora-devel-list
> Subject: Fedora 7 media sets
> 
> Since test1 and FUDcon there's been a lot of feedback on what media sets
> we should actually build, test and distribute by default.  It's pretty
> clear that the mix of "desktop bits without any development" didn't
> really fit the needs of a lot of our users.  And the incredibly long
> thread about what belongs in a server spin showed that we don't really
> have a good handle on what use cases we're actually trying to fill with
> it.
> 
> Given this, the board stepped back to think a bit about what we're
> trying to achieve and what the problems we were trying to fix.  The list
> was pretty short:
> 
>      1. Must provide a way for people to do their own custom versions
>         including packages from all of the Fedora universe.
>      2. Want to provide at least one installable "single CD Fedora" to
>         help in parts of the world with less bandwidth
>      3. Need to provide a way to install via media for the following
>         cases:
> 
>               * Desktop environment
>               * Developer use
>               * Simple LAMP server
> 
>  4. Try to be as little of a burden on our mirror and testing
>     infrastructure as possible.
> 
> 
> Given the above, we'd like to look at doing a somewhat different set of
> bits for Fedora 7 than was previously in the plan.  But, we're still
> open to feedback to change things somewhat.  The on the table things
> are:
> 
>       * Fedora 7 Desktop LiveCD.  It's installable and it's a single CD,
>         so it's a good step towards the single installable desktop CD
>         case.
>       * Fedora 7 DVD.  With everything for desktop, development and
>         "mainstream" server tasks. This ends up replacing what was
>         previously Fedora Core. There's something of an open question as
>         to whether we'd provide CD isos here or not.  Or CD isos via
>         bittorrent only?
>       * Fedora 7 Everything. 2+ DVDs. More bits than you can shake a
>         stick at. Not available on the mirrors; bittorrent only.
>         Hopefully can share the first disc with the Fedora 7 DVD.  This
>         would be the most at-risk and the most likely to fall off due to
>         time pressure.
>       * Make your own Fedora 7 step-by-step guide. This is important to
>         help ensure that people understand and can make their own custom
>         spins.
> 
> Also, Rex is continuing to lead the efforts for the Fedora 7 KDE release
> and hopefully the Fedora 7 KDE LiveCD.
> 
> This feels like it'll get us to a place that's reasonable for Fedora 7
> and to where we can then actually get experimentation done with "hey,
> how can I get a single CD" rather than putting Fedora 7 on the line for
> the experimentation.
> 
> Comments?  Flames?  ...
> 
> Jeremy
> 


Sounds good to me.

I would like to see the minimal install option put back.

I would like to be able to get the box up and running with just enough to be
able to add more later.

It would be nice to have a text interface to pirut so that it would be easy
to add packages later.  Or maybe something as simple as some kind of text
interface that would allow you to check the different yum groups and install
them. Kind of like the one used to pick ipv6 in the linux rescue.

Another option might be to be able to boot from the original media and have
it detect that it was running the same version and just have the option to
install more software or modify the system packages.

It just seems like such a waste of time to install everything and then turn
around and have to update it with 200-300 MB of updates.

Jerry


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