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Re: Plan for tomorrows (20070726) FESCO meeting



Hi,
On 7/26/07, Hans de Goede <j w r degoede hhs nl> wrote:
> Brian Pepple wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Please find below the list of topics that are likely to come up in the
> > next FESCo meeting that is scheduled for tomorrow, Thursday at 17:00 UTC
> > in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org:
> >
> > /topic FESCO-Meeting -- MISC -- elect FESCo Chair - all
> >
> > /topic FESCO-Meeting -- MISC -- Feature Proposal Approval -
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Dashboard - notting, poelcat
> >
> > /topic FESCO-Meeting -- Rebuilding Packages -- Needs to decide whether
> > to always rebuild, or only when toolchain warrants it - all
> >
> > /topic FESCo meeting -- Free discussion around Fedora
> >
> > You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to
> > this mail and I'll add it to the schedule (I can't promise we will get
> > to it tomorrow, but we'll most likely will if we don't run out of time).
> > You can also propose topics in the meeting while it is in the "Free
> > discussion around Fedora" phase.
> >
> > If your name/nick is on above list please update the status on the
> > Extras schedule pages in the wiki ahead of the meeting. That way all the
> > other FESCo members and interested contributors know what up ahead of
> > the meeting. And we will avoid long delays in the meeting -- those often
> > arise if someone describes the recent happenings on a topic directly in
> > the meeting while all the others have to wait for his slow typing...
> >
>
>
> I've got a somewhat strange question for FESco to look at, I would like to have
> an exception to the rule that all packages must be reviewed for the following
> set of packages:
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-binutils
>    Cross Compiling GNU binutils targeted at arm-gp2x-linux
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234749
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-kernel-headers
>    Kernel headers for Cross Compiling to arm-gp2x-linux
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242203
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-gcc
>    Cross Compiling GNU GCC targeted at arm-gp2x-linux
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242206
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-glibc
>    Cross Compiled GNU C Library targeted at arm-gp2x-linux
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242207
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-SDL
>    Cross Compiled SDL Library targeted at arm-gp2x-linux
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243147
>
> * arm-gp2x-linux-zlib
>    Cross Compiled zlib Library targeted at avr
>    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243254
>
>
> I've been trying to find a reviewer for them for ages, but there seems to be
> no-one with both the expertise and the time to review them. You all know that
> I'm a very serious packager, and that I have near 0 bugs open against my 135+
> packages, so I hope that you will trust me to deliver good quality even without
> a review.
>
> ---
>
> Another issue I would like FESco to look at is the current somewhat grey state
> of kmod's I'm considering packaging kmod's for uvc (usb video class driver),
> lirc and islsm (prism54 softmac driver, which is in F-7, but no longer in
> rawhide). But before I invest time in these I would first like to have the
> state of kmod's cleared up. I will try to work with there resp. upstreams to
> get them in the upstream kernel, and atleast for uvc and islsm upstream merger
> is planned already.
  Just FYI, kmod's got always low priority from FESCO. The usual
answer for kmods reviews are "why not kmod is added in upstream kernel
yet?"
  I struggled a lot to get first spca5xx kmod in Fedora but failed as
no one dare to review it. Then after it got considered as unsuccessful
attempt, I tried on submitting gspca kmod. After  much struggle I got
KMOD_APPROVED on gspca-kmod package review. But then no one dare to
review it even after I showed my willingness to maintain it for each
kernel release in rawhide and with such unfortunate happened things, I
decided to CLOSE my own package reviews for gspca kmod.
  I feel really bad for that. I am sure many peoples like to have some
of the under development kmods in Fedora. I often used to get request
from peoples about what happened to webcam kmods like gspca I tried to
add in Fedora.
  Today also I got query for available webcam drivers in Fedora and
RHEL, but unfortunately people now need to compromise on webcams for
available webcam kmods in kernel. There are few webcam kmods which
are, though under development but working well and their upstream is
prompt to release updates for newer kernels. These kmods supports most
of new webcams.
  But still we are not having those kmods approved in Fedora atleast.

Regards,
Parag.


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