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Re: Don't put new packages through updates-testing



On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 09:47 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Friday 01 June 2007 09:14:23 Hans de Goede wrote:
> > As already discussed on then maintainers list (using devel list for this as
> > I see no reason to keep this on maintainers), the plan all of a sudden is
> > to let new packages go through updates-testing.

> > Yet another argument against making new-packages go through updates-testing
> > is the fact that even if there were a QA team testing them, I wonder how
> > they would test my latest batch of packages:
> > avr-binutils
> > avr-gcc
> > avr-libc
> > arm-gp2x-linux-kernel-headers
> > arm-gp2x-linux-binutils
> > arm-gp2x-linux-gcc
> > arm-gp2x-linux-glibc
> >
> > Do they happen to have an avr microcontroller development kit handy for
> > testing or a gp2x handheld? Any experience with programming those?
> >
> > Making package like these goto updates-testing is ridiculous.
> 
> So you're using one corner case package set with a limited user base to throw 
> out the entire idea of getting some larger audience testing on new packages 
> to a stable release.  Sounds like a great argument to me...
It is, it demonstrates the flaw of your endeavor: 

1. You and the testers don't have the faintest idea how to test these
packages: Probably 90% of all FE packages are in a similar boat:
Specialized, small userbase and no knowledge on then in the testers team
nor at RH.

2. There is no "community testers base" for such specialized packages,
because these package are _new_ (rsp. not yet) in Fedora.

3. These packages are hugh and technically complex. They will never be
"perfect" - There will always be bugs, it's only a matter if someone
considers them severe enough.

Ralf





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