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Re: Don't put new packages through updates-testing



Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:10:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:31:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Users facing these broken packages might just leave rather than report bugs. Do you care about that?
Even worse if the users face broken packages that have gone through
something labeled "updates-testing".
Alteast then they can contribute towards testing.
Users who would "leave" don't try out so-called test-updates anyway.

An estimated big percentage of those few users, who do try out
test-updates, won't take the time to report a problem. There's too
much of a risk of hearing "know thing" or FIXED/RAWHIDE.
We are assuming a lot here without any data to back up these assumptions. At any rate I don't think we are going to convince each other so I would leave the final decision to FESCo.

Data that back up these assumptions are found in historical evidence that
"updates testing" has not been a success so far. Both Core developers and
users have complained about it [*].

Developers have pushed updates inconsistently into updates-testing and Fedora Extras didn't use the system at all so there wasn't much of a incentive for me to request interested people to participate. If there is a good consistent document policy on updates-testing it is much better for developers and end users regardless of what the policy actually is.

You participate in so many public communication channels, you must
have seen such topics, too (yes, another assumption ;).

Yes. I have seen more complaints from users and much less from developers.

Rahul


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