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Re: f7 images for mass production

Gerry Reno wrote:
Hans de Goede wrote:

And if we spend the time to create new iso's for that, I think it would be a good idea to make those available to our end-users. Call it a .0.1 release, call it a brown paper bag release (not meant in any disrespect to DaveJ, but the kernel is kinda a brown paper bag kernel). Eitherway if we invest time and QA to make new iso's for this, we should make them available, as the time has already been invested then.

I vote for doing a new spin with:
-a new kernel included (we might have to wait a bit for this new kernel to
 become available and proven)
-perhaps an updates.img included
-perhaps one or two updates for very very critical no interaction needed
 network abusable security issues.



I would second these. My initial experience with the first F7 ISOs was very bad. It won't install on my real hardware from DVD as the install won't recognize the drive. My second attempt was a LiveCD which promptly bombed with a listing of block errors on sr0. Didn 't even know I had an sr0. My third attempt was to load F7 in QEMU. Would only work with HTTP option. Once I got it loaded it wouldn't run with kqemu so I had to run it without acceleration and I don't need to tell you that it isn't even usable without acceleration. My next attempt was in Xen on a FC6 host. Setup a domain in virt mgr pointing to a good mirror. It started anaconda and then when it got to the partitioning screen it showed no drives or partitions available for installation. Completely hangs the install right there. So yes, I'm ready for something a little more tested.

my 2c,

FWIW, the problem that I saw with F7 final was that all the great work that had gone into F7 was overshadowed to a great degree by a lot of installation issues. It was like having a 5-star meal served on a dirty plate. So how about this? The general end user does not download test releases that would help in shaking out any installation issues. They should but they don't. So publicly release, some time prior to the final, a Trailer, if you will, that installs exactly like the final. Then the general user community can provide feedback as to any installation issues they see. Everything in the Trailer installer works the same except that at the end you see a few promotional messages showing the new features in the release and of course the final "Coming soon to a mirror near you" or "Opens May 31st", that kind of thing. This way the installer can be broadly tested and any installer issues can be identified and it would also help to build the hype for the Fedora release. Just a fun type of thing that has some good QA benefit attached to it.


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