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Re: Fedora Rel-Eng Meeting Recap 2007-JUN-11

Jeremy Katz wrote:

1) Mirrors allegedly have a problem:

What exactly are they complaining about?

They're complaining that it erodes the value that they provide to us.
And that if we do that, then there's a lot less reason for them to
mirror and help us out.

If other mirrors are more occupied then does it erode the value of the one mirror which is not being used as much? If I distribute the software via Free Media program, online or retail shops, magazines and books, does it erode their value? We are always going to be distributing our software in more than one way and if some ways are more faster or efficient than the rest we should do that. This seems a rather odd thing for a mirror to be complaining about. How many are complaining?

And they don't like that they get it mirrored
and yet people at their institutions still end up using their _external_
bandwidth to get the torrent early rather than accessing the local
mirror which was explicitly set up to reduce local bandwidth

Is there anything stopping them from opening their local mirror within their institution?

I don't think that any of the infrastructure issues will be changed at
all.  The infrastructure issues we have at release time aren't that the
mirrors are falling over or anything of the sort.

We might not be particularly worried about mirrors but they do get saturated quickly and in short the infrastructure problems are directly related to many people rushing to get the new release which can certainly mitigated by a early torrent release.

How is that clear?  Why can't I download from the box that's two hops
away from me on the network and I have a gigabit connection to?

.. because the mirror is waiting to sync the content that we are pushing out? If they prefer the closer mirror they can very well wait for it to open up. Right?

  And no
matter how clear we are, it's still going to be muddy and make things a
lot more difficult from the standpoint of a launch with the press

How? Why would the press be bothered that we are doing a torrent only release 4 days earlier? Should we be more worried about the hypothetical confusion in press as opposed to getting the release to end users faster?


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