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Re: FESCo elections



On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 09:48 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:54:16 -0400,
>   Jesse Keating <jkeating redhat com> wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2007 02:27:30 Karsten Wade wrote:
> > >  Is there any good reason
> > > *not* to open FESCo elections (members and voting) to all of Fedora?
> > 
> > (ignoring all the flamebait)
> > 
> > Look, tying it to the account system provides us an easy way to measure who 
> > has voted and only take one vote per account.  Which accounts get to vote is 
> 
> Which isn't necessarily the same as one vote per person. I think the chance
> of significant ballot stuffing going on to influence who gets to do a lot
> of work for free are low. But someone might try something as a prank.
> It's been a few months since I did the CLA, and my memory is that the
> process is automatic up until the point where I need to get into a group
> that can do something.

If we don't have something in our election process to protect ourselves
against pranks and so forth, we need it.

The risk to the future of the community is greater if we put security,
protection of the election, and paranoia as higher priorities than
openness, inclusiveness, and fairness.

> I think the requirement should be membership in some (any) other group than
> cla_done. 

This is still going to disenfranchise folks without any other measure of
if they should be.  Only cla_done means not an active contributor?  Not
so, the Wiki is a legit contribution area and only requires cla_done.

> This shows a bit more interest. It also requires manual approval
> so that some prankster can't hose an election by creating a lot of dummy
> accounts. (This would most likely be detected, but would still be a
> significant annoyance to have to clean up after.) I think this category
> would include all of the people that people have been concerned about in
> this discussion.

Well, it requires gaming gpg.mit.edu in the process, but I'm sure it
could be done.

I propose we include the entirety of cla_done, but announce an age limit
on the account -- it must be older than one week.  This gives people a
chance to get an account for the election (since voting lasts longer
than a week) while leaving enough time for us to notice any
pranks/gaming of the system.

- Karsten
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