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Re: Meaningless name (was: Re: rpms/xchat/devel ...)



On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 17:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 16:15 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 16:09 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 19:57 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes:
> > > > > So the two of you simply decided that it would be better for everybody
> > > > > if the menu item changed from the (somewhat cryptic, but informative)
> > > > > "IRC" to the totally meaningless "X-Chat" ?
> > > > 
> > > > X-Chat has a meaning, it's the particular IRC client called X-Chat. There's 
> > > > several IRC clients in Fedora, including one called xchat-gnome which several 
> > > > people think should be the default (in fact, I'd LOVE for it to become the 
> > > > default, not because I actually use it, in fact I hate it, but because that 
> > > > could lead you to leave the regular X-Chat alone!), so "IRC" is very vague as a 
> > > > menu entry.
> > > 
> > > Yes, IRC is not a very good menu item either, "IRC client" would be a
> > > bit better, except you really don't want "clients" in the menus. But I
> > > stand by my claim that X-Chat is totally meaningless to regular users. 
> > 
> > I'm a regular user. 
> 
> Umm, self-declared regular users don't count :-)

If you're referring to migrating Windows users, even they realize there
is more than one program to accomplish the same task.  Think of AIM,
Trillian, ICQ, blah blah blah.  Or McAfee vs. Symantec.  Or IE vs.
Firefox.  Hell, even Microsoft doesn't label IE as "Web browser" (which
is another bogosity we do but one thing at a time).

I still think name recognition in the menus is a good idea.

josh


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