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Re: F8 is getting *really* sysadmin-hostile



On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 09:46 -0800, Christopher Stone wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2007 9:33 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating redhat com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:30:00 -0800
> > John Poelstra <poelstra redhat com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've been thinking the same thing...you also lose liferea and pidgin
> > > which seems totally silly too!
> > >
> > > Which component(s) should a bug be filed against?
> >
> > You lose those because they have the capability of responding to
> > NetworkManager connection/disconnection events so that they can do the
> > right thing.  It would appear that they link to NetworkManager-glib,
> > and thus if you remove -glib you lose them.
> 
> So I guess we need a pidgin-NM or something so pidgin can be installed
> without NetworkManager.  I'm sure that there are hundreds of cases
> like this in Fedora, and probably the #1 gripe among Fedora users
> right now.  Modifying every package to split out every optional
> component is a lot of work, but should be done.  I think an effort to
> do this is key towards making Fedora a base distribution for all other
> distributions.  The idea that you should install all optional
> components for every package you install is good on paper but not in
> practice, especially for making spins and custom distros.

I would suggest going back to the pidgin developers and seeing if the
NM-capability can't be separated into a run-time loadable shared object
(module) if it isn't already. That way that can be packaged separately
like any other pidgin module.
--

Richi Plana


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