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Re: When should sysctl be run during boot?

Jonathan Underwood wrote:
On 01/10/2007, Bill Nottingham <notting redhat com> wrote:
Jonathan Underwood (jonathan underwood gmail com) said:
As modules could be loaded at any time, it would seem the most
correct way would be to do it via a modprobe.d or udev rule.

I see your point. But, taken to it's logical conclusion, we'd scrap sysctl.conf

Actually, that would be the right thing to do - it's currently a badly defined
ad hock kludge.

I presume this issue will be shaken out during the initscripts reworking and
NetworkManager revisions in any case.

As discussed in the bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=312481 , we might be able to solve this in a good way, with a few updated tools. I'll outline the thoughts here and let everybody join the discussion...

What Jonathan and I discussed, was the possibility of having the module loading mechanism (modprobe) figure out what proc nodes a newly loaded module provides and selectively, apply settings to those nodes only.

That would make it possible to have a single, system-wide sysctl.conf file with settings for all sorts of modules, and we would no longer need to worry, that perhaps our modules isn't loaded when the settings are applied etc. Also, it makes sure that manually applied settings are not touched.
See the following sniplet from the bugzilla discussion for an example:

-- snip --
My system is configured with net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0... But I'm plying with routing so I did an echo -n 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to enable forwarding. Now I plug in my USB disk and modules gets loaded. It's really important that ip_forward is still "1" at this point
-- snap --

This should work for boot, randomly loading and unloading modules, manually changing /proc/sys settings at runtime etc.

Perhaps the heuristic needs to be: when loading a module, modprobe should (using sysctl or otherwise) look at sysctl.conf and set any values for entries created by the loading of this module, and disregard all others. sysctl -p would then serve the purpose of resetting all values to those in sysctl.conf, if needed by the user.

/Thomas (with random exempts from the BZ dialog with Jonathan Underwood)

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