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Re: KDE logout options with F8

Christopher Aillon wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
GNOME display manager is not logically associated with GNOME Desktop Environment? If that's the case, it makes it even more illogical that GNOME display manager is default for KDE Desktop Environment. Either we have a neutral display manager that works well for them both (it doesn't in this case since there is a regression in functionality inflicted by our defaults) or we install whatever display manager goes well with the desktop environment.

GDM is getting a massive face lift to be more generic. The original intent was to get KDE on board as well such that all you'd do is swap toolkits and use the same backend. We've been trying to convince KDM upstream to participate but I've heard there's been pushback because of something dumb like we need to be bug for bug compatible with the existing KDM, which is just not going to happen.

It would be fantastic if the backend was more neutral like you said since there are people who might want to run any display manager with any desktop environment. Meanwhile, throwing around accusations instead of looking at what KDE maintainers as well as users want in Fedora is counter productive. Just a while back I was accused of having an agenda against KDE [1]. Now I get accused of having an agenda towards KDE [2]. I guess, the next one to follow would be XFCE [3]. Others would accuse Red Hat of crippling KDE and the routine will continue. Next time, don't wonder why.





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