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Re: My 2 cents on the whole Fedora to succeed as global wide deployed desktop are...
- From: Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip kanarip com>
- To: Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list redhat com>
- Subject: Re: My 2 cents on the whole Fedora to succeed as global wide deployed desktop are...
- Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:21:30 +0200
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Faster system-start/shutdown! Service need to start on demand rather
then during the boot up process or
at least if anaconda/kudzu don't detect it don't enable it ( bluetooth,
printer service sis etc. ) It's better to have
the user to go through setup/installation/initializations process ( they
are used to it )
and have faster startup than enable lots of unwanted/unneeded service
during startup "for everything works solution"!
I guess the next generation of init-scripts is going to figure out what
the user wants. You have a point on the bluetooth/printer item, but the
"unwanted" services is just silly.
Application need to be able to adjust firewall to allow access for them
selves. We don't like it but they noob user will and if
your arguments are, the application will mess up my highly complicated
netfilter/iptables firewall, routing rules than your
smart enough to be able to *hash* an check box who would disable this
feature in system-config-security, or at least offer
a wider selection of services to open in s-c-s especially those who
need more than just an port opening ( protocol 47 48 50 51 etc.. ).
The noob user is not able to create there own *Custom* firewall rules.
If an application is allowed to change the firewall configuration why do
we even include the firewall at all? What's next, applications that can
modify the SELinux policies to allow themselves to run?
I'm almost certain it should have said that if someone enables the
webserver service (regardless of what actual software is providing the
service), he should be asked whether he wants to open up his firewall
for this/these new socket(s).
Service should be bound to certain interface ( lo eth* ) instead being
configured default to listen to *.
Right, because on one side you want to make things easier, but the bind
address is /so easy/ to configure from any GUI administration tool, that
you want to limit the bind to a certain interface only? What happens if
there's no eth0? What happens if you have eth0, wlan0 and ppp0 and
change between those interfaces because you are a roaming user?
Let the majority fedora user community decide what should be the
default application to use in gnome/kde to open/play/view etc files
and which application will come with default installation ( in gnome/kde
), do research in what people are adding/changing/replacing
to get better hint of what should be used as default app behavior or
better yet let fedora user vote what should be used in new release in
( browser pluggin maybe that would ask user to vote on what (
apps/fetures ) they want to see in next release of fedora vote counted and
implemented after dev freeze? ).
I believe we have that already.
Application user interface should be kept simple and simple to use with
advanced menu feature for the advanced user.
Things should work as much as possible out of the box .
99% what normal user is doing ( surfing the web, reading his email,
writing his paper etc should work out of the box ).
I guess your wish got heard retroactively and implemented some years ago.
There must be a (legal)way to enable 3 party repos during the
installation process and set these things up for the noob user.
God no! If we do that, we lose. On a personal note; I'd rather make it
as hard as possible to ever use anything I can't read any source code
of, or that isn't licensed to permit me to do whatever I want to do with it.
( moving the legal liability from fedora to the user, disclaimer or
something he has to read, approve and press ok for ).
If not move the Fedora HQ to Europe and create a legal and handicapped
spin to be released in the states since everybody is so keen on suing
everybody in the states.
( we still have some sanity and dignity left here in Europe, I said some
:-) For their defence the states are young as a nation
maybe this will grow of them. )
Right. Europe has sanity and dignity but the US don't. Right.
Offer encryption on user sensitive data during install or even by
default on hardrive.
( browser cache, email cache etc or maybe offer the user to have his
/home on encrypted partion ).
What we do ( Surf the web,what we spend our money on etc ) is being
monitor/catalog/profiled enough as is. Atleas if somebody gets his hands
on your box/drive/laptop lets give him hard time to actually get your data.
May I ask how you imagine the user recovers his data if he looses his
private key or passphrase?
Lets try to start do see things from noob user perspective and not
advanced/dev user perspective.
We advanced/developers can handle our selfs the noob cant!
Why was minimal install ( no gui ) removed from anaconda?
/Fedora by the user for the user.../
*Users*, plural. Thank you.
Jeroen van Meeuwen
RHCE, LPIC-2, MCP, CCNA
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