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Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: New db4 update and package changes



On 09/09/2007, Ville Skyttä <ville skytta iki fi> wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2007, Robert Scheck wrote:
> > On Sat, 08 Sep 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> > > On Saturday 08 September 2007, Michel Salim wrote:
> > > > On 11/08/2007, Robert Scheck <robert fedoraproject org> wrote:
> > > > > thousands of -devel packages is in my not so humble opinion what the
> > > > > reporter of bug #220484 would like to see. And I don't believe,
> > > > > there's any real benefit of doing so, so please avoid it. We're
> > > > > living in the 3rd year- thousand and I don't want to calculate what 5
> > > > > MB of disk space could cost.
> > > >
> > > > Thirded. Consider that good ol' Slackware does not even split
> > > > development files out of their main packages!
> > >
> > > 5MB is actually pretty much if you consider setups on space constrained
> > > media such as live CDs, small flash disks etc.  There have been other
> > > related lengthy discussions about things such as trimming package
> > > changelogs which would result in the same order of magnitude space
> > > savings when installed, so there are people who do care about numbers
> > > like that.
> >
> > Ehem. I talked about 5 MB for splitting the -devel package itself. Since
> > when are db4-devel packages installed on live CDs, small flash disks etc.?
> > And no, it's not the same. So please don't bring my argumentation out of
> > context!
>
> That wasn't my intention, sorry if I offended you.  Your later (than your
> mailing list post) comment in #220484 seems very much opposed to the whole
> split and doesn't mention devel packages at all.  Michel's reply above (which
> as the quote indicators show, is primarily what I replied to) seems to me to
> be using Slackware as a proof-of-concept argument that not caring about size
> overhead of development files in packages in general works just fine.  And I
> don't actually see a db4-cxx-devel in the packages tree nor in the db4.spec
> CVS history.
>
My mistake. I meant to actually state that on a developer's
workstation, the size of -devel does not matter that much (when I
brought up the Slackware example, I meant it as a quintessential
developer's distribution). Of course, on space-constrained
environments every megabyte counts.

-- 
Michel


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