Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 14:42:08 UTC 2008


max bianco wrote:
> 2008/4/24 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at gmail.com>:
>> max bianco wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus at tmus.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal
>> users
>>>>>> (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools in there
>> for
>>>>>> non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
>>>>>> assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally
>>>>>> broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not anywhere I can
>> see),
>>>>>> so I propose that we just do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone opposed to such an action?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not at all,
>>>>>
>>>>> +1000000
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been consistenly changing /etc/profile todo exactly this since
>> the
>>>> day I started using RH 4.0
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  Isn't that more or less the same reason most windows users login as
>>>> administrator - The convenience?
>>>>
>>>>  Note: I know the security risk in the two examples are not in the same
>>>> ball-park, so there's no need to lecture me on that.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm merely speaking of convenience and how it sometimes makes it feel
>> right
>>>> to do the wrong thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Speaking as probably one of the most inexperienced Fedora users
>>> subscribing to this list. I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment.
>>> Its already been said but I will say it again anyway. Those that know
>>> how to add things to their $PATH will do just that and not be
>>> inconvenienced.
>>>
>>  Actually, this is not true.  I added it to my PATH for years since starting
>> on RHL-4.  But at some point in using Fedora, I stopped because  I gave up
>> on the hassle of adding a custom PATH to /etc/profile.d/ every time I
>> installed a new box.  Additionally, I now have more shell accounts on boxes
>> that I only drop into once in a while when something's wrong that I've
>> learned to accept the constant annoyance of not having .*/sbin in my PATH.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you don't know how to find ifconfig and add it to
>>> your $PATH then you probably would just shoot yourself in the foot
>>> with it, if you don't know but are motivated you can certainly find
>>> this info easily enough. Our time on this earth is limited  but its
>>> not that limited.
>>>
>>  Actually, it is.  Every day, lose six minutes from having to retype a sudo
>> line due to not having a PATH configured with sbin.  Most likely when you're
>> already stressed that something is broken and you just want to find out what
>> as quickly as possible.
>>
> But you are a poweruser and can make the adjustments to your profile
> so you don't have to retype it everytime. I am talking about people
> who have no idea what mount,fdisk, or ifconfig are for...
>
Completely missing the first part of my post where this is addressed...

PS: mount is already in /bin/.....
-Toshio

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