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Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10

Enrico Scholz <enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de> wrote:
> "Tom \"spot\" Callaway" <tcallawa redhat com> writes:
> >> > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal users
> >> > ...
> >> > Anyone opposed to such an action?
> >> 
> >> /me

/me too

> > Your thorough and elaborately explained reasoning has concisely shown me
> > the errors in my proposal. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my
> > email with such useful and important information.

> ok; let me more verbose:
> 1. such changes require a good reason; direct reachability of a fistful
>    of programs is not a good reason. There are side effects (console
>    helper, other programs relying on traditional $PATH) which are not
>    handled in your proposition.

Yep. Have to consider paths wired into brains too...

> 2. 80-90% of programs under */sbin are without any use for normal
>    users; mentioned 'ifconfig' + 'route' are called by normal users
>    for diagnostic reasons only. This assumes some adminstrative
>    knowledge including awareness about the special /sbin paths.

Should perhaps be supplemented with friendly tools for users on foot in
/usr/bin?  None of those is really fit for human consumption...

> 3. tab-completion will show me a lot of new programs which are for zero
>    use. This will slow down my work.


> 4. problems which are tried to be solved can be handled much better at
>    other places (e.g. modify 'sudo' to search in */sbin, or link commonly
>    used programs to */bin)

I.e., get /root/s shell configuration before doing anything?
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