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FESCo Meeting Summary for 2008-08-13

=== Members Present ===
* Brian Pepple		(bpepple)
* Kevin Fenzi		(nirik)
* Josh Boyer		(jwb)
* Jon Stanley		(jds2001)
* Dennis Gilmore        (dgilmore)
* Karsten Hopp		(kick_)
* Jarod Wilson		(j-rod)

=== Members Absent ===
* Bill Nottingham       (notting)
* David Woodhouse       (dwmw2)

== Summary ==
=== Upstart Status Update ===
* Casey Dahlin (sadmac2) and Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) gave an update
on the status of Upstart for F10. It was planned that with Upstart 0.5,
Fedora would begin converting large parts of the system to the "upstart
way of doing things".  Keybuk pointed out that several very core use
cases, pertaining to the mounting of file systems, instance jobs, etc,
are poorly served by current Upstart. So, until these issues are
resolved upstream, we will hold off on converting to the "upstart way of
doing things".

=== Revert curl change made for flash ===
* After a contentious discussion of whether to use an empty shared
library linked to libcurl.so.4 (proposal #1), or to make a compat
sub-package for libcurl.so.3 (proposal #2), FESCo approved proposal #1.
      * Proposal #1: jds2001, Kick_, nirik, bpepple
      * Proposal #2: jwb, dgilmore
      * Abstain: j-rod

=== Features ===
* FESCo approved the following feature for F10:
      * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApplianceTools
      * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApplicationInstaller
      * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Eclipse34
      * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirstAidKit
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GNOME2_24
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Sugar
      * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PythonNSS

* FESCo held off on approving the 30 Second Startup(1) feature, since
they had some questions regarding it. 
     1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/30SecondStartup

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