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Re: My (unpleasant) fedora 10 installation experience



On 12/01/2008 09:25 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> I'd suggest you file a bug report against firstboot (Cannot skip user
> creation, broken NTP due to broken NetworkManager auto-configuration)
> and GDM (Invalid language selection, missing switch-to-US-English
> option) and post the BZ# here.

Done.

User creation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474007
NTP firstboot crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474009
Invalid gdm input language by default:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474010
Broken keyboard switching in GDM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474011
GDM changes layout after the username prompt before entering password
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474014

> I doubt that anyone here will disagree that these bugs should be fixed
> in F11, so beyond venting, I doubt that a starting a discussion about
> these bugs will produce anything useful.

Some time ago there was a proposed feature - Stabilization which haven't got
enough attention. For me or any other cyrillic user (and perhaps not only
cyrillic but any language that does not use latin characters for scripting) all
these bugs are a great regression since last 4-5 fedora releases.

I think that first, developers could draw more attention to multilingual
changes, especially when they are changing long established defaults, they could
also consider if the new change makes any sense at all (as with non-english
login names). And second, this stuff new stuff should not be changed without
sufficient feedback from users/testers.

If you are lacking testers for a significant change, may be you could just
announce that "hey, this feature could possibly break the things, since it
changes the habitual defaults, please test it or be warned". This could bring
more testers, especially those interested in features to be broken.

To summarize: almost all the stuff above was not broken in previous fedora
releases. It was not tested enough but it was released. And it can surely spoil
the first fedora experience for the newcomers which is definitely not a benefit
for fedora.

--
Lev.


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