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Re: What Fedora makes sucking for me - or why I am NOT Fedora



Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Michal Schmidt <mschmidt redhat com> wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 01:25:40 +0100
Robert Scheck <robert fedoraproject org> wrote:

[PackageKit] kills my Firefox nicely during package updating,
well-well done.
Running instances of Firefox always break when the Firefox package is
being updated. It does not matter what you use for the update (rpm,
yum, PK). This is not PackageKit's fault.

In general, any software can break when a running copy has its files
swapped out from under it.  XULRunner-based apps exacerbate this flaw
in the package system because they use versioned directories.

Errr... versioned directories should make it possible to keep the old one running, not the other way around. Removing a still-needed directory is the problem.

But it's not Firefox's fault either.  Think about icons, glade files,
etc. that might be included in software.

It's something that really needs to be fixed in yum/rpm.  Windows has
a notion of "update this file after reboot", which might be the way to
go.

Unix normally gets away with live updates because any currently open files remain accessible until the last close. However, in this age of extensive plugins and modules with runtime loading, you either have to make sure they are all versioned like shared libraries should be or you kill the app that needs them.

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  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell gmail com


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