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Re: Fedora 10 - Boot Analysis



Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Steve Grubb <sgrubb redhat com> wrote:
In /etc/sysconfig/crond, there is the CRONDARGS variable where it can be set.

Okay that meets the baseline requirement for the desktop live image.
And obviously kickstart scripts for other spin targets can flip that
config to something else as needed. If we get a Server Spin for
example it could choose sendmail by default and explicitly install
sendmail by default in its kickstart.

But can this be handled in a more sophisticated way so we can get a
system that can handle both the desktop target usecase and the managed
system usecase that Les is trying to articulate by default without a
config file edit?

I don't think I'd call wanting standard email a 'managed system'. It is the system helping you manage itself, and I think people would use it if they were aware that it existed.

IF a real honest-to-god mta is installed, can cron grow some logic to
prefer to use the mta if available? For example can the cron service
script see if /usr/sbin/sendmail is there.. if it is..use it... if its
not..fall back to something else (the yet to be written dbus-email
broker)

If you really want to go down the reduced-functionality road, it doesn't make sense to make every program that expects /usr/bin/sendmail (keeping in mind that not every program in the universe is installed via yum out of a fedora repostitory...) have to look for alternatives.

 If that sounds doable, then we can start poking Behdad to write the
missing dbus-email broker as an F11 feature and we can get something
which should not disrupt Les's managed desktop usecase.

Just write the 10-line shell script version of /usr/bin/sendmail that discards the message in whatever creative way you like and package it as an alternative mailer. But, if I can't make them come to my phone when I want, you've badly broken expected functionality.

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  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell gmail com


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