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Re: Stability and Release Cycles - An Idea



On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:42 -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:28 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> > > * Ralf Corsepius [22/12/2008 13:51] :
> > > >
> > > > Right, implementing a fork is the last resort, when an opensource
> > > > project's leadership doesn't want listen.
> > > 
> > > That's not true.
> > > 
> > > We've discussed this idea several times and, when people are told that
> > > they need to show there's a group of contributors to this project before
> > > infrastructure is dedicated to it, they don't fork the updates, they
> > > start whining and making up a whole bunch of excuses to justify not
> > > doing the work.
> > 
> > We are turning in circles - It's a hen and egg problem.
> 
> No...
... sssst ... bang ... a bullet ...

> > FESCo brushes off volunteers,
> 
> Haven't seen such.

> >                               the @RHs (here A.C) gun-down any
> > volunteers,
> 
> What I just saw was an _encouragement_ to go and just do it. That is not
> "gun down".
Well, to me these "just do it" read as "piss off, we (RH) are not
willing to support any such proposal".

> > Patrice already turned away from Fedora, I for one have significantly
> > cut down my involvement into Fedora and am considering to further cut it
> > down.
> 
> Sorry to hear that.
Yes. And ... rest assured, this mail of yours, as well as a similar
reply of yours in a preceding similar threat have further added to it.

Ralf



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