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Re: to autodownload or not to autodownload



Christopher Aillon wrote:
On 02/10/2008 02:52 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
If users want to get non-free items, I would MUCH rather usher them to the legal way to do so versus the illegal way. Fluendo is currently the only legal way we can offer for the US and some other countries.


The same argument could be used for autodownloader, if someone wants to play quake, I much rather have they use autodl to download a legal version then use some pirated full version.

I really must say I don't understand how people can have an issue with autodownloader and at the same time defend codina. To me that is nothing shirt of hypocritical.

Here's the bottom line:

Is $MEDIAPLAYER usable if the user decides they don't want to download any codecs with codeina? Yes, because we ship and support vorbis, theora, flac, wav, etc.

Is $GAME playable if the user decides they don't want to download the non-free items? If yes, I'm totally fine with the game using autodownloader. If no, I have a major problem with the game being in Fedora. In neither case do I have a problem with autodownloader existing.


This is turning into a word game, the real questions are:
1) Is offering the user to download non freely redistributable, but freely
   downloadable content to enhance the users experience acceptable?

2) Is offering the user to download non free, but freely downloadable code to
   enhance the users experience acceptable?

3) Is pointing the user to a website where it can buy proprietary code (aka
   advertising of proprietary code) to enhance the users experience acceptable?


If you don't believe me this are the true questions, lets take vavoom for example currently installing the vavoom package does not result in getting a playable game, because the current free dataset we have (freedoom) was designed for another doom engine derative: prboom. So I could spend some time fixing freedoom and / or vavoom to work together and the vavoom and all the included .desktop files launching autodownloader to install doom / heretic / hexen shareware would all of a sudden be ok?

Likewise, currently the .desktop files (and shell scripts and autodlrc files) included with vavoom for doom-shareware are not ok, but if I add them to prboom, which can play the doom shareware datafiles too, they are?

This all sounds rather strange, either such a convient way for end users to easily install and get a well integrated version of these non freely redistributable datasets is ok or it isn't.

Regards,

Hans


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